A far fetched, but possible notion?

joeykoins

I just seen somebody mentioning about the 2009 Lincoln transition. Only the 2009 proof Lincolns for that year is suppose to be the only Copper cents, in that particular year. However, the 2009 Lincoln Chronicle commemorative set, that was produced in Philadelphia, had the proof cents in there. So, therefore, there is that possibility that they mistakenly produced some copper 3.1 as business strikes! I would be on the lookout. Maybe, just maybe?

dcarr

I thought all the regular 2009 (UNC) Mint Sets have solid bronze cents in them ?

I've been thinking that the 2009 Mint Sets are somewhat undervalued because probably they have solid-bronze Lincoln Cents, and also they have the hard-to-find (in rolls or in circulation) 2009 P&D nickels and dimes.

joeykoins

Sorry, I may be explaining it incorrectly?
https://youtu.be/szbgJHgJQXQ

JBK

I agree with DCarr. As far as I know, all collector coin sets had bronze cents.

Therefore, any bronze 2009 cents would essentially be indistinguishable (unless the.2009 mint sets were of the matte variety??).

Also, I personally would not consider any offmetal 2009 cents to be "transitional" as there was no transition, only a one year exception.

I did not watch the referenced video, but it looks like it could be a minefield of hype and misinformation. They don't even use the word "cent".

ricko

Seems to be mostly hype... but of course, it is possible. Something I had not been checking for.... Cheers, RickO

CopperWire

Mint sets in this time period contain coins struck with specially prepared dies and planchets. PCGS designates these examples with a SP grade (instead of MS or PF).

WAYNEAS

I will scale weigh my raw 2009 coins.
You never know.
Wayne

keets

yes, Joey, this is indeed a "far fetched" notion.

Lincoln Bicentennial One Cent Program
In 2009, the United States Mint issued four different pennies as part of the Lincoln Bicentennial One Cent Program. The program recognized not only of the 200th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, but also the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln cent, first appearing in 1909. The themes on the reverses represent the four major aspects of Lincoln’s life:

Birth and Early Childhood in Kentucky (1809-1816)
Formative Years in Indiana (1816-1830)
Professional Life in Illinois (1830-1861)
Presidency in Washington, D.C. (1861-1865)
The circulating version of these coins uses the same metal content as other modern cents (2.5 percent copper, the rest zinc). The uncirculated version contains the metals used in the original 1909 cent (95 percent copper, 5 percent tin and zinc).

After the program ended, the design on the back of the one-cent coin changed to represent the unity of the states, which President Lincoln worked so hard to restore and preserve.

https://usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/lincoln-bicentennial-one-cent

TwoSides2aCoin

I'd think a 2010 Shield cent weighing 3.1 grams in proof, or from an uncirculated set would be a further stretch and possibly a rare transitional piece. Yet to be discovered and/ or non existent.

joeykoins

@keets said:
yes, Joey, this is indeed a "far fetched" notion.

I get it. It's just the idea that the Chronicle Set was produced in Philadelphia. The proof cents were in that set! That's what makes one think?
https://iccoin.com/2009-lincoln-coin-and-chronicles-5-coin-set/#gallery

jesbroken

I have a box full of original bank rolls of the 2009 Cents. I'll go through them some day. Keep the hype up and I'll sell them on ebay. lol
Jim

PerryHall

@CopperWire said:
Mint sets in this time period contain coins struck with specially prepared dies and planchets. PCGS designates these examples with a SP grade (instead of MS or PF).

At what grade is a SP or PF coin no longer identifiable as being a SP or PF coin? I'm not talking about a PF only issue such as the 1895 Morgan dollar.

joeykoins

@PerryHall said:
At what grade is a SP or PF coin no longer identifiable as being a SP or PF coin? I'm not talking about a PF only issue such as the 1895 Morgan dollar.

The "SMS" coins are good examples. Once they're out of the holders, even when they're in decent shape they're difficult to distinguish!

291fifth

I wonder how many calls dealers have received from members of the general public who have viewed that video and are now certain they have a "rare" and "valuable" Lincoln cent?