Error Coin Experts, I Need Help On This Coin .....
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The ANACS label say that this coin was struck thru a previously struck clad layer.
That works for me, But .......
The area sure has a struck thru grease feel, and was wondering if it is possible that this coin had a "dropped IGWT".
Is it possible that another coin IGWT was so clogged with debris that the debris dropped out and fell onto this coin.
Either way I am good, but just want to be accurate.
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Disagree with the label.
As you mentioned, it appears to be a
'dropped chunk' instead of a dropped letter.
That's the most 'dropped' letters I've ever seen.
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Thank you Fred as sure does look like a dropped motto.
I have never seen more than one dropped letter or number and never a whole sentence
Super cool and thank you again.
If that was a struck fragment you would see more distortion around the outside of the letters, anything thick enough to show the letters that clearly would also distort the fields around the edges of the fragment. Dropped letters makes the most sense given what I can see in the photos, though I am not against a mystery "door #3" option I haven't thought of yet.
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The 'motto' does appear to have an outline around it when magnified... so a piece of clad would make sense. Cheers, RickO
If it was a clad layer, the outline would be much stronger.
@ErrorsOnCoins .... I will certainly defer to your judgement on the issue.... Cheers, RickO
Here a struck thru (unstruck) clad layer I just won. Notice the strong outline .....
I find it hard to believe that a piece of mint grease that huge could survive a separation this intact.
May I suggest a third possibility? Struck through previously struck foreign material, such as (perhaps) a scrap of plastic?
TD
Perhaps. That is why I asked the question. It just doesn't look like a struck thru clad layer.
Tom, did you originally grade/see this one back in the day
i do recall a thread recently about nearly this same subject, different coin. fwiw
if no one finds it and links it before i finish what i'm working on, i'll look for it.
i cannot add anything new but agree a grease chunk surviving intact, is unlikely, imo. the irony doesn't escape me that a possible grease-filled E is on this coin.
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Ya I did notice that
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well, after looking at the coin a little closer, i have to jump on-board the struck through dropped IGWT. that area above really looks like grease frags and the spot above R in dollar and a few spots around the coin kinda put it to rest for me.
i'm guessing the part at the bottom of the struck-through is the back part of washington's ribbon (below T), so that was a MONSTER grease filler. sheesh
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And the motto (on the right) is super clean except the "E" as if a grease debris filled chunk just fell out.
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Definitely an interesting coin.
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Well now if you can locate the quarters struck that would have the IGWT missing before the "chunk" dropped out of the die then that would definitely corroborate that theory.
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searched struck-through and fragment and didn't find the thread i was thinking of. i'll try to do some more searching and if i find it, i'll link it. fwiw
Was it this coin which I own also ...
Struck thru struck fragment, much sharper brockage.
Interesting.
I really like the dime showing like that. I have one not as cool but I like it. Dime one side top o head other. I would love to add that one to my collection but I can enjoy the photos 🤓🙀
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not that one although very neat!
it was a struck through detached lamination (fragment) with several letters/words impressed elsewhere on the coin. i'll do some more searching. probably in my comment history.
Cool thread and cool coin!
That's a nice one!
Struck through an off-center strike, not through a struck fragment not that the difference is provable at this point.
I agree 100% with Fred (and the most I've seen as well.) Probably a piece of struck lamination or a tine fragment of metal that was struck on top of another coin, then struck into this coin and fell away after strike.
I would use the term "struck through struck fragment" maybe? Not a pro like the guys that have already chimed in though.
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Carefully studying the images leaves only one conclusion, Definitely a dropped motto. The motto on the right is very crisp because the debris fill had just dropped out and landed on the left side of the coin before striking. Look at all the other letters on this coin and you can see that they have varying degrees of die fill. Such a cool coin.
A very interesting pickup.
It definitely was a puzzle for me.
Thanks to the experts and again another educational post.
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