Kennedy Die Clash?

joeykoins

Hi guys,
I was going through my inventory and came across this old toned 1964 Kennedy. I don't think it is a proof but it may also be? Anyway, what made me pause was I put it under my scope and discovered what maybe a die clash? It looks to be from the reverse of the shield? What do you guys think? Also, to the right of the shield appearance is something as well? Can't quite put my finger on it. Can you? Thanks guys.
A Nice Tone!

What's This? Some Numbering?

Here are some shots of the reverse

Thanks again, guys.

MsMorrisine

I’d say those are from reeding

jmlanzaf

@MsMorrisine said:
I’d say those are from reeding

Seem kind of far apart for reeding, but they don't match any design element to be a clash

Steven59

@joeykoins said:

Anyway, what made me pause was I put it under my scope and discovered what maybe a die clash? It looks to be from the reverse of the shield?

I'm thinking it's just some pareidolia. Both areas on the dies (Kennedy Bust & the Eagles tail) are cavities so if the dies would clash there would be nothing that would hit together the way I see it (?).

Does the reverse die line up with the obverse die to cause anything?

joeykoins

Thanks. How about if the die rotated? Then maybe the Shield on the reverse would clash, no?

jmlanzaf

@joeykoins said:
Thanks. How about if the die rotated? Then maybe the Shield on the reverse would clash, no?

Or maybe they used a completely different reverse die and it's a clashed mule.

Occam's razor

Oldhoopster

Don't forget, the highest points on the coin are the lowest point on the die. That's why you generally see clashes in the fields. That's where the dies are closest together. If the clash was strong enough for the shield to contact the face, there would be a lot of other contact damage.

WAYNEAS

@Steven59 said:

@joeykoins said:

Love the overlay.
Wayne

koynekwest

Clash marks are most often seen in the fields of a coin, which correspond to the highest parts of the dies, which are the areas most likely to clash. There are, however, exceptions, like these two coins-

But I don't think your half dollar shows any clash marks, Joey.

ricko

That looks like PMD to me.... Not a clash. Cheers, RickO