GTG: Cali Diamond Jubilee Commemorative Half Dollar
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PCGS graded, here's the TV's.
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GTG: Cali Diamond Jubilee Commemorative Half Dollar
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Not voting. These usually look terrific. And grades are all over the grading spectrum so instead of voting , I would rather offer a more fundamental point... And the point that I want to make is about engraving and craftsmanship. Take a good look at the design, the look and how it pops out at whoever is holding it. This is exemplifies what is missing in the coinage that we have today.
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Looks dipped and (slightly) retoned, but the luster is strong enough to preclude a details holder, I'd think. As noted, these are hard to grade, so could see a point either way from MS65.
Regardless of how the coin actually looks in hand and what the assigned grade is, based on the images provided, it looks like a 67.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Very frosty for the issue and normally dipped to death. MS67
Agree that it looks 67 however, TV's can be deceiving...Cleaned - Details.
Dipped 66, maybe 67.
I clicked on 58 but it's not showing up.
I can't grade from TruViews. Why would anyone bother to try?
I'll take a roll of these at my grade. It's conceivable to me that the coin might be in a 62 holder. @MFeld surely missed the rub on the tip of the miner's nose. On second glance I also missed the rub on the ursine proboscis. I can fix those! Not sure whether micro-puttying, dipping the whole coin or artificially toning it is the right approach.
If I'm wrong about the rub (or not) I'd happily pay MS67 CAC money (if so slabbed) and make back double my postage
@Smudge - Undipped. @MFeld is often my "canary in the coal mine" on this type of "cleaning".
It was also subjected to neither sodium anhydride* nor NHOH** (sic?), both sometimes combined in their commercial distribution forms with various non-phosphate-based detergents.
** =sudsy ammonia
From the photos, strong 66, maybe a 67 on a good day.
Possibly because it's more entertaining that discussing, say, why eBay can't figure out how to charge sales tax correctly...
BTW, your vote appears to have registered, after all. Posterity can exhale.
67 I think.
I will go with my initial impression of MS66.... Cheers, RickO
It's graded MS65. I personally think it's a 66, but I'm just a guy with huge red floppy shoes and polka dot pants that drives a tiny car.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
@DelawareDoons no trick question?
I change my answer to 65…Well it has the look of 67/68.
My keen parole agent eye guesses it’s not MS68
Certainly wouldn't look out of place in a 66 holder. Sometimes I think that PCGS gives liner coins the benefit of the doubt when they have more of an original look. Or maybe I just like to imagine that's true...
Looks very clean and flashy. I'd be comfortable with it in a 66 holder based on the photos.
That’s the kind of 65 I would buy every day and twice on Sunday!
Could not have penned this comment any better. I'll even go one step further, and wag it's got a bean.
We will find out in a couple months, it'll go in on my next group. Gonna put a note with it saying I think its dummy nice for a 65.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Didn't realize the grade was disclosed already 🤦♂️😬, my comment stands, great example.
Looks like a nice 65, but don't think it's a 66 or better because it took a couple(?) of baths
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EDITTED to add a couple thoughts and part of a PM I sent to Mark
Not always a fan of laying it out there as sometimes it can be taken as bashing someone's coin ... but since the grade is posted (I failed to see that), and I believe it is accurate, I'll share why I think that.
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When I opened the picture and looked close, I see what I call "dip burn" ... not sure how else to describe it. I could be wrong, it could be die polish or something else. Look behind the Prospector.
Also I do not seem to be able to make out much frost on the devices. Bright and fairly clean, but seems to be missing the "frost".
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I don’t understand that comment, as the luster appears to be far more than adequate.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I'm usually wrong on high grade coins, which is why I own very few, but these pics sure look 67 to me.
Jim
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Everything's relative. It's a very lustrous issue, as a rule. I could see a bump to 66, but 67 seems like a decided long shot. YMMV.
What, in your opinion, keeps it from 67?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Lack of original skin and (perhaps imputed) diminished luster. I've seen a large number of these over the years. The superb gems have always been extremely flashy and usually colorful.
Thank you. The luster/skin might be an issue and I just can't tell from the images. But the lack of much color shouldn't have any bearing
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I'm viewing the lack of color as an additional forensic device as opposed to something meriting a deduction in its own right. FYI.
I will post a video of it when I have it back in hand. It's a pretty solid coin imho. If if was dipped, it was dipped eons ago, when I bought it, it was in a clearly aged 2x2 dated to the 1970's. I know they dipped plenty of coins back then, just saying if it was treated it wasn't recently. IIRC (It's been a while since I've seen it in hand, I graded it via economy) it had a lot of flash but wasn't in your face flashy like you'd expect a 67 to be.
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