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1959 d. Lincoln penny predamaged mint error. Die cap debris ejected from obverse.

Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
edited July 9, 2021 1:10AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Will this penny make money dispite the crazy mule clash?

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not seeing a crazy mule clash. :D
    I'm seeing a damaged cent. ;)

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was this damaged coin found in a parking lot?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

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    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    How about this One?

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The mintage for the 1959 D cent is 1,279,760,000

    They are worth 1 cent ;)

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    Which 1969 Lincoln cents has more value? Top row. The s or the d

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    If the d is worth 1c. How much more value will be had if it’s missing the initial LG on reverse?

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    The 1969 d. Is missing the initials on the reverse? Would this give it a preimium of more than 1 c.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    1969 d., Lincoln penny with no initials on reverse would be considered a new variety of this penny.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    It also has a floating roof reverse compared to s.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We need some die markers to be sure of this one… ;)

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    The transitional 1988 p. Is also a new vaitiety above.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    The 1988 p also has a error in the initials on the reverse

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :s

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We cannot see any of the details you are referring to, and from the pictures, they look like ordinary cents. And not in good condition.... Cheers, RickO

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All spare change

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What description on the tag/label,
    are you looking for ?

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
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    OldhoopsterOldhoopster Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, based on his previous threads, this member has found some real" interesting" stuff and is very creative with his interpretation. I feel bad that I wasted time trying to offer helpful information previously. No sense in continuing to play This game.

    Best of luck moving forward

    Member of the ANA since 1982
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    BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I quit.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I zoomed in on the cents

    None are special in any way

    No, we aren’t interested in buying them

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am curious what you mean by "mule die"?

    Collector, occasional seller

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just check out the OP's second thread on the forum. It's a real head scratcher. They did put their money where their mouth was and they paid to have metallurgical analysis done before going ahead and slabbing a normal Brifish penny worth about 25 cents. But they still insist it is something special. :/

    I predict this exercise will end the same way.

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    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @Dewlynn59 said:

    @Dewlynn59 said:

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    @IkesT said:
    Damage by a mule is not worth any premium.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :#

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    A mule die clash occurs when two dies that should not have paired together to strike coins are accidentally or intentionally paired and subsequently are clashed together without a planchet in the collar.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Look at the d leading up to the date. Marks of planchet in the collar. Live

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    User1 is that you?

    Did you ever get a scope?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    when the planchet is in the collar, there are no marks.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dewlynn59 said:
    A mule die clash occurs when two dies that should not have paired together to strike coins are accidentally or intentionally paired and subsequently are clashed together without a planchet in the collar.

    What are you saying this die was clashed with?

    Collector, occasional seller

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    Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
    edited July 8, 2021 11:53PM

    A Clash cap. With old material stuck in the clash cap.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
    edited July 9, 2021 12:27AM

    It’s my humble opinion that the clash cap had debris from old stuck inside , during the strike. And released after the coin was ejected.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
    edited July 9, 2021 12:27AM

    The gray head gentleman is Horton hears a who. The other gentleman was my undergraduate student.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Yes I do have a scope. And to that question? Why ask such a thing? User1.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
    edited July 9, 2021 12:19AM

    Under the scope there isn’t any left over debris visible. Apparently it was freed when the coin was ejected into the ben and or washed out at the mint. I don’t walk around looking for coins in any parking lot. Being a ex-University Professor, coin community.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Delusional, Horton hears another who. I’m not like president 45. I try applying logic with reasoning. OP dead mule.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    Dewlynn59Dewlynn59 Posts: 106
    edited July 9, 2021 1:12AM

    Humor is vanity nothing new under the sun. Let me get something straight. Have I joined a community that’s blessed with professional graders. But if they’re delusional in thinking that this coin is just damaged without considering the debris elements in the work place at the mint. And it could in fact be an mint error strike through error made with old debris in the clash die cap, that damaged this coin, community.

    This 1933 uk. King George v. Pattern coin.

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    lcutlerlcutler Posts: 504 ✭✭✭✭

    Could you explain what a clash cap is?

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now it's a clash cap, before it was a mule die.
    Did the coin suddenly change from one error to the other?
    You keep making up numismatic terms that mean nothing. :D
    Maybe you can make up another numismatic term for this coin.

    Maybe it's an indented collar on a partial split brockage planchet from a distorted hub. ;)

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    IkesTIkesT Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The debris was ejected from a mule.

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dewlynn59 "I try applying logic with reasoning."

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    tincuptincup Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is your asking price? Maybe someone here is interested in buying it..... ? ..... >:)

    ----- kj
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FredWeinberg said:
    What description on the tag/label,
    are you looking for ?

    "DAMAGED"

    I guess

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Dewlynn59 said:
    Under the scope there isn’t any left over debris visible. Apparently it was freed when the coin was ejected into the ben and or washed out at the mint. I don’t walk around looking for coins in any parking lot. Being a ex-University Professor, coin community.

    T***p University?

    [oops, sorry, no political comments.]

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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