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LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 3, 2021 7:26PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Here is a sample of my vam discoveries

2011 discovery in pcgs ms65 1879-P_VAM-73A from a special ebay was running for 10% off a purchase via the ebay app. got a good deal and the 10% and it turned out to be a discovery. cha cha cha ching

2013 discovery raw 1881-O_VAM-1J from B&M and turned out to be a new "overpolished" rev with a different mm position. very odd.

2014 discovery 1923-D_VAM-1B1 raw that has nice obv and rev breaks but discovered for the rev.

2014 Discovery raw 1922-D_VAM-2BS that has a nice retained cud with other breaks.

2015 discovery raw 1880-P_VAM-1G with a very neat crumbled obverse. found 2 the same day from a canvas bag of morgans that was handed me.

2016 discovery 1890-S_VAM-1J that has nice connecting breaks on rev that stem from a radial break and a couple in the wreath.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow

    all impressive pieces!

    @keyman64
    haven't we discussed this piece previously?

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:
    wow

    all impressive pieces!

    @keyman64
    haven't we discussed this piece previously?

    Probably a couple of times. Still no clear path of what to do with it to get it into a discovery holder. I’m open to suggestions.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:
    Probably a couple of times. Still no clear path of what to do with it to get it into a discovery holder. I’m open to suggestions.

    do you have any documentation from some official organization? i dont recall the other thread(s), so lets do it fresh. (if no documentation, how do you know it is new?)

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @keyman64 said:
    Probably a couple of times. Still no clear path of what to do with it to get it into a discovery holder. I’m open to suggestions.

    do you have any documentation from some official organization? i dont recall the other thread(s), so lets do it fresh. (if no documentation, how do you know it is new?)

    Just from conversations with Barber peeps at FUN and emails with Wexler since he authored a book on Barber Dime varieties. I think it was Wexler, pretty sure. No real documentation because no one seems to offer it for Barber Dimes if I recall. And if I got documentation, would the TPG accept it? I called ANACS and they told me who they accept documentation from but none of those people offer documentation for Barber Dimes as I recall. I’d prefer PCGS and I called them but the situation was similar or it has to be published in a book etc and they need documentation but from who that does Barber Dimes? It’s like a viscous circle. TPGs could offer a service like this to expand and benefit the hobby where they coordinate with different experts/authors etc but they don’t. I’m almost tempted to spend it. I’ve had this thing for 6-7 years now.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CONECA doesn’t do Barber Dimes either if I recall.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keyman64 said:
    Just from conversations with Barber peeps at FUN and emails with Wexler since he authored a book on Barber Dime varieties. I think it was Wexler, pretty sure. No real documentation because no one seems to offer it for Barber Dimes if I recall. And if I got documentation, would the TPG accept it? I called ANACS and they told me who they accept documentation from but none of those people offer documentation for Barber Dimes as I recall. I’d prefer PCGS and I called them but the situation was similar or it has to be published in a book etc and they need documentation but from who that does Barber Dimes? It’s like a viscous circle. TPGs could offer a service like this to expand and benefit the hobby where they coordinate with different experts/authors etc but they don’t. I’m almost tempted to spend it. I’ve had this thing for 6-7 years now.

    first thing is to find some sort of official book/listing/website etc. someone has to be doing it for barbers as they are simply too popular of a series to not have been/being studied in-depth.

    haven't really done much in the way of varieties with them but i've never not been able to get something i think is new to a person to at least say yes or no. so the answer is out there. could be easy, could be very hard.

    variety vista has a list of attributers (had?) that i recall from years ago for stuff that wiles didn't mess with. perhaps your next visit would be the coneca forums.

    i don't ask rhetorically; how bad do you want it?

    perhaps your persistence will pave the way for you to get more listed and for others to follow. i have for sure tramped through some crazy woods and choppy waters to have found a few dozen discoveries across several series.

    unfortunately, someone here probably has the answer but the answers aren't always given, so get your axe and boat my friend...

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Variety Vista still has the name of the first to report a variety in the listing for that variety.

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has been a few years since I have made attempts. I could certainly retrace my steps and try again. How bad do I want it? It’s a common date Barber Dime in VF. I honestly can’t get too excited over it but it is cool. The variety is crystal clear and photographs great. If it were a Mercury Dime, I’d be a lot more excited. ;)

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 3, 2021 9:46PM

    @keyman64 said:
    It has been a few years since I have made attempts. I could certainly retrace my steps and try again. How bad do I want it? It’s a common date Barber Dime in VF. I honestly can’t get too excited over it but it is cool. The variety is crystal clear and photographs great. If it were a Mercury Dime, I’d be a lot more excited. ;)

    .
    have you been here? or here

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LanceNewmanOCC said:

    @keyman64 said:
    It has been a few years since I have made attempts. I could certainly retrace my steps and try again. How bad do I want it? It’s a common date Barber Dime in VF. I honestly can’t get too excited over it but it is cool. The variety is crystal clear and photographs great. If it were a Mercury Dime, I’d be a lot more excited. ;)

    .
    have you been here? or here

    No, but I have talked to BCS at FUN shows where they had indicated that they had never seen it before. I’ll reach out to them via email and send photos to see what they have to say these days. Thanks.

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DNADave said:
    This is a trial strike of the first ( and rejected) design for the camp David peace summit counterstamp. Notice the devices are incuse. The first time I showed it on this forum even mr Wacks was unuaware that it was out there.

    Wow! What an awesome find! Congrats :+1:

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting thread. I have no discovery pieces, but perhaps one day, looking through change or a roll of coins, I will get lucky. Cheers, RickO

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    pmh1nicpmh1nic Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    I did not discover this variety coin, although I have the only one attributed through PCGS;

    PUP: the flag of the 1 within the shield lines, below the R of LIBERTY.

    Any idea on what caused that? It's a head scratcher for me?

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pmh1nic said:

    @oih82w8 said:
    I did not discover this variety coin, although I have the only one attributed through PCGS;

    PUP: the flag of the 1 within the shield lines, below the R of LIBERTY.

    Any idea on what caused that? It's a head scratcher for me?

    Probably "Shakes" the date setter got ahold of the date punches.

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:

    @pmh1nic said:

    Probably "Shakes" the date setter got ahold of the date punches.

    that is pretty funny, hopefully that was your intent.

    for anyone that hasn't used date /letter punches, especially ones small enough for small denomination coins, it is quite a challenge to accurately line them up in all regards (up/down, depths, tilt etc, granted when i used them in property management for keys and whatnot, i wasn't using a loupe handheld or helmet held which should make it a bit easier but also, i imagine conditions in 1887 were a bit tougher than in my time. :)

    what boggles my mind now i think about it, with all their ingenuity, why in the world would the not make some simple device to hold and line up a punch above a die and then punch letters/dates etc.

    obviously numismatics would have been far less interesting but it makes me wonder.

    fantastic additions to this thread everyone, really.

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    seanqseanq Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am listed in some places as the first to report the second known separated mintmark variety on the 1956-D cent, CONECA RPM-018. I gave my examples to John Wexler, while another collector had found an earlier die state and sent his to Ken Potter.

    I also re-discovered a nice 1972 Kennedy Half DDO which was listed in Variety Vista but had never been examined by anyone in the club, that also went through John Wexler. John wrote both coins up in his Coin World column at the time, if I can find my copies I'll add pics to the thread.

    Sean Reynolds

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    mighty fine numismatic scholarship here!

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    @rmpsrpms
    that looks larger than the 54-s!

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    Robot1010Robot1010 Posts: 173 ✭✭✭
    edited July 27, 2021 5:24AM

    Probably too modern for most but not everyday you see an NGC discovery coin. Can't figure out why the American Memorial Park and War In The Pacific didn't get the V75. Can someone please explain that. Would have been nice to see V75 on those

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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Robot1010 said:
    Probably too modern for most but not everyday you see an NGC discovery coin. Can't figure out why the American Memorial Park and War In The Pacific didn't get the V75. Can someone please explain that

    .
    i may be off base but iirc, the covid-19 REALLY messed a lot of things up across the globe and the making/release of some of our coinage was no exception. if you dig deep, you will find a lot of inconsistency and chaos as people struggled and scrambled to get footing.

    there are a couple of threads (at least) tracking the making/release of these types of quarters and nearly a day-to-day tracking of even the smallest amount of new information from a few sources.

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    Robot1010Robot1010 Posts: 173 ✭✭✭

    20 million W quarters. This may go on for a bit

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    Robot1010Robot1010 Posts: 173 ✭✭✭
    edited July 27, 2021 5:19AM

    2020 W quarter no V75? That could be the next amazing discovery coin. Maybe there's a transitional error or something else interesting. Possible but not likely with the low mintage but something to look out for

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