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14-D new ebayer, poor pictures?

MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 9, 2021 4:00PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Seems I have to be very careful how I word some of these, lets go this route on this one.
I don't understand why someone with a rare coin, new to ebay would make th e coin their first listing, and a 19 14D at that.
A rare coin, new ebayer, and very poor pictures sure makes details around the date and mint mark hard to make out the de tails?
I guess it could keep the price down it making it a good deal for someone.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373607158138?hash=item56fcb8d17a:g:vOoAAOSw8tZgvLV0


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  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    44 ?
    That 1914 photo, with a filter,
    just for help if needed.
    No alteration.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 10,467 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well the blurry pics are for a reason. That huge gap between the 9 and second "1" is a sure give away not to mention the mint mark shape and location

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even with the blurred pic it's very easy to tell it's an alteration. It's worth one cent. There seems to be a group with little or no feedback listing this junk on ebay. That's been going on for a couple of months now.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Well the blurry pics are for a reason. That huge gap between the 9 and second "1" is a sure give away not to mention the mint mark shape and location

    Funny isn't, sort-a looks like my typo in my title comment 19 14D LOL!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Altered date.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:
    44 ?
    That 1914 photo, with a filter,
    just for help if needed.
    No alteration.

    Good Job!
    Thank You!

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes It could be a 44.
    But too far out of focus to be 100%

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Altered date. Reported.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 9, 2021 6:06PM

    @MarkW63 said:
    Seems I have to be very careful how I word some of these, lets go this route on this one.
    I don't understand why someone with a rare coin, new to ebay would make th e coin their first listing, and a 19 14D at that.
    A rare coin, new ebayer, and very poor pictures sure makes details around the date and mint mark hard to make out the de tails?
    I guess it could keep the price down it making it a good deal for someone.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/373607158138?hash=item56fcb8d17a:g:vOoAAOSw8tZgvLV0


    One more thing you can't see do to bad pics ... A true 1914-D will not have the designer initials V.D.B. under the shoulder, the designer initials where not placed on this area of the coin until 1918.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    No-there's NO doubt that it is an altered 1944-D.

    How did that little Christmas phrase go?
    "All I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front Teeth"

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭✭✭

    About as fake as they get.

    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be.---Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States of America, 1801-1809. Jefferson was the primary author of the Declaration of Independence.

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not good at all

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yep, clearly an altered cent.... but it is still up with bids.... Cheers, RickO

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As of 5 PM EDT it is still there. I've reported it again. Let's save the bidiots from themselves.

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,059 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look under Lincoln's shoulder. Do you see the designer's initials V.D.B.?
    If so it is a fake as a real 14d does not have V.D.B. anywhere on the coin. A 44d does.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also reported. Wonder how many reports are required to have it removed?
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A good percentage of coins on ebay of late are either altered, counterfeit, or badly misrepresented and absurdly overpriced. That's nothing new but it seems to be worse now than it was in the past. Ebay needs to get control of things but I guess they just don't care.

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gone

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finally! I wonder how many more altered 1944-D cents are on ebay right now.

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Finally! I wonder how many more altered 1944-D cents are on ebay right now.

    They for sure could get by me, but I've went down the entire search list about a week ago and then several times a day sense then I've gone down the newly listed trying to spot altered, fake, & counterfeits. This is the second one that I've posted that's been taken down.
    I'm also searching for 55 DDO's the same way.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭

    The wind blew and POOF its gone.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Altered '14-Ds are easy to identify if you know what to look for. The top is genuine and the bottom is the altered coin that's been discussed. Note the spacing between the "9" and the second "1." It's much wider on the altered coin. Also note the shape of the second "1." The two ones should match perfectly on a genuine coin. And always look for that "VDB" beneath the shoulder. It's usually present on an altered coin.


  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,166 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is one of the worst fakes I have ever seen. Almost comical.

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    where there is fools who are easy to part with their cash there will be scammers, e-bay is just one of many sites that have scams by the dozen going on and as long as e-bay gets their $$$$ they could care less unless it affects their profit then they care

    1997-present

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It never ends...................................

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • MarkW63MarkW63 Posts: 1,532 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2021 7:17PM

    @Connecticoin said:
    That is one of the worst fakes I have ever seen. Almost comical.

    Here is the one I found on ebay the other day, I think its even worse.

    "I Prefer Dangerous Freedom Over Peaceful Slavery"
    Thomas Jefferson!

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes indeed-laughable! Dude was in a hurry.

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