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I still do not receive it after it was shipped 28 days ago. What should I do?

Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

It has been like this for 16 days:
"May 2, 2021
6:10pm
PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
MIAMI, FL 33112"

The item is from Europe, the registered mail tracking number is not trackable at the USPS.com, I can only get status from eBay. Should I do something about it or ask the seller to track it?

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's unlikely the seller will be able to get tracking information any easier than you can.

  • heavymetalheavymetal Posts: 565 ✭✭✭✭

    I had a recent delivery from the UK Royal Mint take weeks to arrive as well. The bulk of the delay time was here in the US.

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    While concerning, it is not abnormal for such shipments. Usually gets hung up in customs for a while. Should pop loose in a week or two... JMO and based on a couple of my own experiences with shipments from Europe. Cheers, RickO

    From the status I get from eBay, "PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY", I can tell it passed the customs and in the hands of USPS. My items usually go through INTERNATIONAL SERVICE CENTER ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS), and usually takes 2 or 3 days to arrive. But this time it is FL. Another thing, the registered mail tracking number is not trackable on the USPS.com. It seems some countries' numbers work some won't, even though they are in the same format.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,444 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have tracked my pirchases from Germany and UK at USPS. no spaces between letters and numbers. USPS was always ahead of eBay tracking.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tracking Registered Mail

    Registered Mail (domestic and international) service and Registered Mail Restricted Delivery service alone cannot be tracked through the mailstream.

    https://faq.usps.com/s/article/What-is-Registered-Mail

    Sometimes, the shipment gets scanned into the system, sometimes not. Either way, tracking that you can access online is not a feature offered by the post office for registered mail, so not being able to see it is not evidence of anything.

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    I have tracked my pirchases from Germany and UK at USPS. no spaces between letters and numbers. USPS was always ahead of eBay tracking.

    It happened to me, some work some not. And, the letter after the "R" is different from country to county, I do not know why.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had registered letters from overseas delivered to me like regular mail with no recognition that it was registered.

    In your case it sounds like it us making the slow trip as registered mail.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    do not let your deadline for filing an ebay or paypal claim expire. You might want to go ahead and initiate it to have it on record.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    do not let your deadline for filing an ebay or paypal claim expire. You might want to go ahead and initiate it to have it on record.

    How long is it? Never done that before.

  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 6:57AM

    It’s coming your way. Things are slow still.

  • djmdjm Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You need to open a dispute on eBay for item not received. If you miss the deadline to file then you can only file a claim through your credit card

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    You need to open a dispute on eBay for item not received. If you miss the deadline to file then you can only file a claim through your credit card

    How many days is the deadline?

  • djmdjm Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You have 30 days from the estimated delivery date to inform the seller that you didn't receive your item.

    Which means open a case

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    Another thing I do not understand, why eBay can show the status, but USPS.com shows "not trackable"?

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FWIW... I returned a Nikon lens to Japan... and lost it after Miami.

    This was during the height of the pandemic.

    I wont buy or sell anything International for any real value

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  • DelawareDoonsDelawareDoons Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    You have 30 days from the estimated delivery date to inform the seller that you didn't receive your item.

    Which means open a case

    180 for paypal, just to add it.

    Professional Numismatist. "It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."

  • HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately I just sit tight.... like others have said that in customs , years ago the Swiss and South Africa were royal pains dealing with both customs,and postal services.
    Purchased a Tag watch from SA it actually crossed the Atlantic 4 times. Before it arrived.
    Sold a gold .25 1988 nikie goddess to an American in Switzerland tbat took 4 months to get there.
    Right now I wouldn't ship or purchase anything from over seas.At present I have a friend who is trying to find $10,000. In coins between him and Canada.
    Before i went out on sick leave my company whom I worked for played hell daily dealing, with all sorts of issues, shipping, plant closed, customs, you name it...every day was a new adventure in things that you cant control...out of control! Good luck...

    "That's why I wander and follow La Vie Dansante"

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Filing a claim is not an option you want to loose. Once started it is a drawn out process that eventually returns your money. If you do receive the item eventually you can always reimburse the seller.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    Update:
    I just called this number, and asked for a call back, 48 min.
    Domestic & International USPS Tracking 1-800-222-1811

    The lady told me, in her internal system she can see the mail left FL and coming to my state, but she can not see any detailed info. And, she also mentioned, this kind of mail can not be tracked inside US.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Samuel8 said:
    And, she also mentioned, this kind of mail can not be tracked inside US.

    You don't say.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Registered mail coming from abroad is different from Registered mail sent within the US. It's not subject to the same security measures or chain of custody requirements. It's not kept in "the cage" at the post office when I pick it up. It's pretty much treated as Signature Confirmation mail.

    The worst place for a package to be stuck is "Inbound out of Customs." This is some sort of limbo where both CBP and USPS deny having the package. I have one inbound package that both the shipper and I assume has been stolen that has been stuck there since the end of February.

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    Registered mail coming from abroad is different from Registered mail sent within the US. It's not subject to the same security measures or chain of custody requirements. It's not kept in "the cage" at the post office when I pick it up. It's pretty much treated as Signature Confirmation mail.

    The worst place for a package to be stuck is "Inbound out of Customs." This is some sort of limbo where both CBP and USPS deny having the package. I have one inbound package that both the shipper and I assume has been stolen that has been stuck there since the end of February.

    My situation looks like it is already in USPS's hand.

    May 2, 2021
    6:10pm
    PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
    MIAMI, FL 33112
    Apr 23, 2021
    12:17pm
    INBOUND INTO CUSTOMS
    33112
    Apr 23, 2021
    12:17pm
    ARRIVED AT INTERNATIONAL SERVICE CENTER
    ISC MIAMI FL (USPS), 33112

  • gradeacoinsebaygradeacoinsebay Posts: 95 ✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 10:38AM

    I've seen this before where it says USPS got it & processed, but I wonder if they really did or if it's still some part of the customs process because sometimes it'll sit there a long while before it gets moving, but usually it's the next day. Rarely inbetween.

    I wouldn't be too worried yet since it's the next step out of customs and an international shipment. But yes you should open an item not received case within the 30 days of delivery estimate and get the ball rolling on that. It gives you a while to act on actually escalating that case, so in the meantime you can wait and see what happens with it.

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    eBay penalizes sellers if they have too many "Item not received" claims filed against them, even if the item is eventually delivered.

    Just sayin'.

  • Registered mail takes forever, right?

    Will probably get there eventually.

    Good luck.

    Patience.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 18, 2021 1:24PM

    @MasonG said:
    eBay penalizes sellers if they have too many "Item not received" claims filed against them, even if the item is eventually delivered.

    Just sayin'.

    Why I'm not an international jet setter. Just one more measure of risk to add to the pile.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭✭✭

    28 days is not enough for a package from Europe. I would give it another 28 days before before even getting concerned.

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  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh South Florida...... the black hole of the USPS.....sometimes my mailman goes on a bender and doesn’t show up for a week....

  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sent my state tax return certified return receipt and the USPS tracking still says " IN TRANSIT TO THE NEXT LOCATION"
    after 52 days. Put a tracer on it and finally got a reply that they cant find it. In reality the state got my return and cashed my check and I have received the green card back. The post office will never find either of them unless I tell them. NOT.

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
  • jt88jt88 Posts: 2,703 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't know why USPS still has such delay. Wait for a week or two before you do anything. I have two packages returned to me as no license. I filed two clams to see what USPS has to say because there is no reason to send back to senders.

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    28 days is not enough for a package from Europe. I would give it another 28 days before before even getting concerned.

    Usually 10 days i> @gradeacoinsebay said:

    I've seen this before where it says USPS got it & processed, but I wonder if they really did or if it's still some part of the customs process because sometimes it'll sit there a long while before it gets moving, but usually it's the next day. Rarely inbetween.

    I wouldn't be too worried yet since it's the next step out of customs and an international shipment. But yes you should open an item not received case within the 30 days of delivery estimate and get the ball rolling on that. It gives you a while to act on actually escalating that case, so in the meantime you can wait and see what happens with it.

    The delivery date is:
    "Estimated delivery Tue, Apr 27-Tue, May 4"

    "within the 30 days of " of 4/27 or 5/4?

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ebay estimated delivery dates are based on just two inputs taken from the item description: handling time after the purchase and method of shipping the seller says will be used. Unless you are looking at a priority mail item shipped from the US to the US, the estimates are often not reliable. Especially when US registered mail is involved; ebay algorithm sees only "first class" or "priority" when it comes to registered shipments..

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you opened a dispute with either paypal or ebay (I prefer PP when applicable) as advised? It can be done from within either account.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @MasonG said:
    eBay penalizes sellers if they have too many "Item not received" claims filed against them, even if the item is eventually delivered.

    Just sayin'.

    Why I'm not an international jet setter. Just one more measure of risk to add to the pile.

    This....we have enough headaches dealing with our local institution(s).

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • gradeacoinsebaygradeacoinsebay Posts: 95 ✭✭
    edited May 20, 2021 12:11PM

    @Samuel8 said:
    "within the 30 days of " of 4/27 or 5/4?

    I'm very familiar with the eBay site so I took a look for you. eBay has this to say:

    "If you haven't received your item, let the seller know within 30 days of the estimated delivery date by following the steps listed above."

    and they defined estimated delivery date as "(the latest date in the estimated delivery range that was provided to the buyer at checkout)"

    May not hurt to do a "print screen" on the computer or screenshot on your phone to save a picture if it still shows you that estimated date so you have it for your records.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 35,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    date, saved in a screenshot or not, becomes irrelevant after the 30 days.

    “There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” - Lenin

  • @derryb said:
    date, saved in a screenshot or not, becomes irrelevant after the 30 days.

    I was only saying to do that so it's clear what the window was just in case. Agree with you though, 30 days from last date of delivery is what eBay says.

  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 378 ✭✭✭

    @Samuel8 said:
    It has been like this for 16 days:
    "May 2, 2021
    6:10pm
    PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY
    MIAMI, FL 33112"

    The item is from Europe, the registered mail tracking number is not trackable at the USPS.com, I can only get status from eBay. Should I do something about it or ask the seller to track it?

    I just checked the status through eBay:

    May 23, 2021
    1:27pm
    PROCESSED THROUGH USPS FACILITY

    This is my regional center.
    I should receive it tomorrow morning.
    It is 22 days from FL to NJ!
    Usually, the international package goes through NY airport, but this time, it was FL.

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