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"Fully struck and free of even the most trivial blemishes" (other than the un-full strike and missing rim)

I'm told that "the most trivial blemish" standard is now classified as run over by a train.

And just a few months later, presto-payo, a new fully struck (not fully struck) free of trivial blemishes (except for the missing rim, of course) crossed over and upgraded pop 1 finest known sticker taxi.

Maybe the upgrade is due to the new, extra bright color it has now!?!?

I want to know the dealer that's making this happen....I have a few coins to send them! And the best part, I know where to find the people that will buy them afterwards!

It's a shame what collectors are allowing to happen and supporting with the demise of grading standards.

Okay label and sticker chasers, start stomping your feet! :'(

Comments

  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 12,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 13, 2021 7:58PM

    I would like Stewart Blay to comment on this.

    Edit: Perhaps he already has ;)

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stop………………………..Hammer-Time!!!

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 31,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Alt-Bye!

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a 67 to me.... :D;) (Now I feel 'professional') :D Cheers, RickO

  • gonzergonzer Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that a micro rim clip?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    On behalf of all of the people who have already commented on this coin on the other thread, I would like to simply have that thread read into the record:

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12933954#Comment_12933954

    And, I would like to make the following salient points:

    1. NGC graded it 67
    2. PCGS graded it 67
    3. CAC approved of the 67
    4. Who the F is KellyGreen?

    This leads to the obvious conclusion: The coin is a 67 and KellyGreen is not a professional grader.

    QED

    PCGS graded it 67+, not 67. And just because someone disagrees with the grades doesn’t mean they’re not a professional grader.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:
    Is that a micro rim clip?

    My knowledge of errors and such is about nil... so I would honestly like to know.

    Maybe before the thread is locked EOC or Fred can chime in... PM will suffice as well.

    Not dramatic, but I think it is a cool coin.

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  • mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's auction like this one that make me not feel guilty about paying full PCGS price guide for CC Morgans

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yspsales said:

    @gonzer said:
    Is that a micro rim clip?

    My knowledge of errors and such is about nil... so I would honestly like to know.

    Maybe before the thread is locked EOC or Fred can chime in... PM will suffice as well.

    Not dramatic, but I think it is a cool coin.

    Just go to the other thread, it's been talked to death.

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yspsales said:

    @gonzer said:
    Is that a micro rim clip?

    My knowledge of errors and such is about nil... so I would honestly like to know.

    Maybe before the thread is locked EOC or Fred can chime in... PM will suffice as well.

    Not dramatic, but I think it is a cool coin.

    Yes, that is a rim clip, and a particularly nice one. I would think on a coin this high a grade that would have little impact on the hammer, in fact it might hold the value down.

    I'll add that it's not hard to find a 1910-S with a rim clip, I have a couple and I've seen a few others, though none in the state of preservation as this coin.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    On behalf of all of the people who have already commented on this coin on the other thread, I would like to simply have that thread read into the record:

    And, I would like to make the following salient points:

    1. NGC graded it 67
    2. PCGS graded it 67
    3. CAC approved of the 67
    4. Who the F is KellyGreen?

    This leads to the obvious conclusion: The coin is a 67 and KellyGreen is not a professional grader.

    QED

    PCGS graded it 67+, not 67. And just because someone disagrees with the grades doesn’t mean they’re not a professional grader.

    CAC ignores the + and so am I for the sake of this.

    So, are you suggesting that we should take KellyGreen's opinion over the consensus of the others? There's already a thread on this coin. Creating a second thread to lodge the same set of complaints is nothing but trolling.

    There are now 3 completely different professional entities all agreeing on the grade. Clearly IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2021 5:47AM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Clearly IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    On behalf of all of the people who have already commented on this coin on the other thread, I would like to simply have that thread read into the record:

    And, I would like to make the following salient points:

    1. NGC graded it 67
    2. PCGS graded it 67
    3. CAC approved of the 67
    4. Who the F is KellyGreen?

    This leads to the obvious conclusion: The coin is a 67 and KellyGreen is not a professional grader.

    QED

    PCGS graded it 67+, not 67. And just because someone disagrees with the grades doesn’t mean they’re not a professional grader.

    CAC ignores the + and so am I for the sake of this.

    So, are you suggesting that we should take KellyGreen's opinion over the consensus of the others? There's already a thread on this coin. Creating a second thread to lodge the same set of complaints is nothing but trolling.

    There are now 3 completely different professional entities all agreeing on the grade. Clearly IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!

    Just because CAC ignores the plus and you’re choosing to here, doesn’t change the fact that PCGS graded the coin 67+. If you’re going to list who graded it what, why not be accurate?

    I’m not suggesting anything about his opinion or that he’s not trolling. I am, however, disagreeing with your “obvious conclusion” that based on your list of four salient points, someone isn’t a professional grader.😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • yspsalesyspsales Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2021 6:58AM

    For future reference... CAC see's this as MS67 when they render a decision?

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yspsales said:
    For future reference... CAC see's this as MS67 when they render a decision?

    Since they stickered the coin in an NGC 67 holder, a PCGS 67+holder and they ignore plus grades, yes.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 14, 2021 8:41AM

    What if the OP invited us all to a party and no one showed up?

    I apologize for my post. Every iota of attention the OP is shown encourages him to think that he is entitled to even more attention. You are enabling a TROLL.

    Mark? Joe?

    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ColonelJessup said:
    What if the OP invited us all to a party and no one showed up?

    I apologize for my post. Every iota of attention the OP is shown encourages him to think that he is entitled to even more attention. You are enabling a TROLL.

    Mark? Joe?

    Henceforth, Rick, I will refrain.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,040 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me, the grade on this coin is just about as puzzling as this............

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Start a provocative post then quietly exit through the back door.

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