It's not me. It's PCGS, NGC, Heritage, Stack's Bowers, etc.
Change takes effort, effort that not many are willing to expend.
An example is that for as many people that express a desire for circulation coins to change back to Lady Liberty from Presidents, not a single person I've seen has indicated they have contacted their elected representatives on this.
How many people that think intentionally created oddities should not be classified as mint errors have made a case to catalogers or TPGs?
Ok, if PCGS, NGC, Heritage and Stack's Bowers say so then . How much money would any of those entities stand to lose (or, at least, not earn), should these creations be recognized to be comparable to artificially created (read: fake) coins? Another rhetorical question.
@MasonG said:
Ok, if PCGS, NGC, Heritage and Stack's Bowers say so then . How much money would any of those entities stand to lose (or, at least, not earn), should these creations be recognized to be comparable to artificially created (read: fake) coins? Another rhetorical question.
People can believe whatever fictions they prefer.
I don't think it's about believing or not believing as I'm guessing the people buying these know exactly what they are and that it's not in dispute. Given this, I don't think people will lose that much.
For a comparison, look at this VF35 Continental Dollar that just sold for $1.1M even though these are now known to be European medals and not US currency. Some people think things will matter to price because it matters to them, but it doesn't really matter to the people buying them.
A similar situation is the 1913 Liberty nickel. Some people don't consider them legit and won't buy them, but the people driving the prices don't think the same way.
I think his point is that whether (or not ) it should be the case, intentionally made creations have been and continue to be labeled as errors.
If that wasn’t his point, it’s mine.😉 I don’t think such coins should be called “errors”, but they are. And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
@MFeld said:
And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
No.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@Byers said:
Zions- Mint Error News published an article a few years ago on the highest prices paid for mint error coins.
Having said that, I will have to dig out the link.
Furthermore, since many mint errors have set record prices recently, the next issue of Mint Error News Magazine will have an updated version of that article!
Looking forward to it!
Thanks for Mint Error News. It's a great asset to the hobby
@MFeld said:
And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
No.
I don't, either.
How do you suppose they were monetized? I mean- in order for them to be legal to own?
@MFeld said:
And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
No.
I don't, either.
How do you suppose they were monetized? I mean- in order for them to be legal to own?
I have no idea.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
No.
I don't, either.
How do you suppose they were monetized? I mean- in order for them to be legal to own?
I have no idea.
I'm sorry, I didn't expect you to answer. It was another rhetorical question.
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@Byers said:
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
@Byers said:
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
I am looking for one picture that Lonesome John took and developed it and then mailed to me. It was so long ago.
Fred Weinberg knows about this Ike clover leaf ( 3 nickel planchets) but I don’t know if he ever saw it or not.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
Your post is spot on. There are many restrikes, pattern orphans and other accepted rarities that are the result of intentional shenanigans...
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@Byers said:
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
Yes, I was still at ANACS when the Dr. Berry Collection came into the Museum, and the Curator at the time asked my opinion of the various pieces.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
@Byers said:
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
@LindyS said:
From Year One of San Francisco Mint's reopening after being shuttered in 1956
Very cool. Did San Francisco strike any of the SMS coins?
Ah nice. Bill Gale's GovMint says the following. What were the Ordnance Department presses originally used to strike?
All of the Special Mint Set coins were struck at San Francisco on old presses obtained from the Ordnance Department, but without an identifying mintmark.
Between my mom driving me to Lonesome John’s and then to Dr Berry’s a few times when I was 15, and then subsequently driving myself at 16 and 17, I made a total of 12 trips.
Lonesome John had the most amazing proof error coins which I bought and then sold to Dr Berry. Most were unique and spectacular but the clover leaf proof Ike $ on Nickel blanks was by far my favorite.
Nothing came close until almost 50 years later ( now) when the proof Ike $ clover leaf on Dime blanks and the proof Ike $ mated on Dime/Copper Cent blanks surfaced.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@Byers said:
Between my mom driving me to Lonesome John’s and then to Dr Berry’s a few times when I was 15, and then subsequently driving myself at 16 and 17, I made a total of 12 trips.
Lonesome John had the most amazing proof error coins which I bought and then sold to Dr Berry. Most were unique and spectacular but the clover leaf proof Ike $ on Nickel blanks was by far my favorite.
Nothing came close until almost 50 years later ( now) when the proof Ike $ clover leaf on Dime blanks and the proof Ike $ mated on Dime/Copper Cent blanks surfaced.
Great story.
I looked up the cert for @FredWeinberg's specimen and noticed that it was sequential when the huge staple coin that I posted a while back. Looking into this more, there was a good sized collection of Ike errors that came into PCGS along with some Kennedy Half Dollars. Someone had a great collection. Is the owner of this collection known Here are the Ikes.
Over time, decades ago, I saw two different ANA Displays of Dr Berry's awesome errors.
I do not recall ever seeing quad cloverleaf nickels struck by Ike dies on display at ANA.
Maybe ANA cashed them out decades ago as they were not listed on this 2 sided Dr Berry error coin inventory xerox I received from Bill Fivaz & JT Stanton's ANA Summer Seminar Mint Error Class in early 1990's
@Byers said:
Between my mom driving me to Lonesome John’s and then to Dr Berry’s a few times when I was 15, and then subsequently driving myself at 16 and 17, I made a total of 12 trips.
Lonesome John had the most amazing proof error coins which I bought and then sold to Dr Berry. Most were unique and spectacular but the clover leaf proof Ike $ on Nickel blanks was by far my favorite.
Nothing came close until almost 50 years later ( now) when the proof Ike $ clover leaf on Dime blanks and the proof Ike $ mated on Dime/Copper Cent blanks surfaced.
LindyS- it wasn’t quad, it was a 3 piece clover leaf proof Ike on Nickel blanks as I described.
Fred Weinberg knows about this clover leaf but I don’t know if he ever saw it...
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
There are several unique Ike $ error coins that I sold Dr Berry ( that I bought from Lonesome John) that are NOT on the 2 pg list that circulated a couple of decades ago...
So it’s possible that they were sold first or were not listed...
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
I do not see it on ANA inventory list I just posted above.
Sadly, I do not recall seeing a 3 piece nickel struck by Ike dies clover leaf way back when Dr Barry's error goodies were on display. No clover leaves displayed at all. They seemed meticulous in their displaying of a few 2 piece mated Ike sets. They pointed out how they fit together. I was centerpiece of the exhibit, both times.
Maybe ANA sold them off, separately, not realizing they were a 3 piece mated chain set ?
Or they were never put on display as I do not recall seeing them ?
Or maybe I am missing a 3rd ANA Dr AK Berry inventory sheet ?
They are not listed in later edition of Judd Patterns' Ike errors section either.
@Byers said:
LindyS- it wasn’t quad, it was a 3 piece clover leaf proof Ike on Nickel blanks as I described.
Fred Weinberg knows about this clover leaf but I don’t know if he ever saw it...
LindyS- any of your 3 senarios are possible but I hope they weren’t sold individually not realizing that they were a mated clover leaf😳
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
I am guessing Jon Sullivan mated the two piece set. I recall seeing them there 1st in an email, maybe.
I visit Fred's & Jon's sites often. Some error goodies pop up & then disappear, just like that...
I see some unique goodies then listed for 2x to 3x the retail money, like $500 becomes $1,500 elsewhere or these unusual errors go dark, never to be seen again.
Zions- it is more likely that Fred’s proof Ike on the dime blank is the lone survivor.
Jon Sullivan sold a proof Ike on a cent blank, also with a straight edge ( meaning mated to another planchet as a chain strike) from a DIFFERENT long- time error collection, and it has never been matched.
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@Byers said:
Zions- it is more likely that Fred’s proof Ike on the dime blank is the lone survivor.
I wonder if the dime planchets should have been connected with silver solder before striking? Would they stay together after the force of being struck?
Lonesome John printed my error coin catalog in 1975.
In it is a 3 piece proof Kennedy mint error, that Dr Berry passed on. It was only one of a few proof errors that Dr Berry passed on.
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@Byers said:
Zions- it is more likely that Fred’s proof Ike on the dime blank is the lone survivor.
Jon Sullivan sold a proof Ike on a cent blank, also with a straight edge ( meaning mated to another planchet as a chain strike) from a DIFFERENT long- time error collection, and it has never been matched.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
@Byers said:
Zions- it is more likely that Fred’s proof Ike on the dime blank is the lone survivor.
Jon Sullivan sold a proof Ike on a cent blank, also with a straight edge ( meaning mated to another planchet as a chain strike) from a DIFFERENT long- time error collection, and it has never been matched.
All other Ike on cent examples on the market in the last few decades are business strikes, of which perhaps 20-25 examples are known, and this is actually the only proof example we have ever seen offered for sale.
Good info on population. Are there just two now? This, along with Mike's 1972-S Proof.
Also shown in the photos are images of an old error coin catalog from the late 1970's with this coin on the cover photo! It is a Natalie Halpern catalog, who was a big error dealer back then. Very neat! (Not included with coin.)
Given that this was in a Halpern catalog, do we know if Natalie Halpern should be listed as part of the provenance?
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I would have less interesting errors with out Fred & Jon 's constantly changing error coin inventory.
Len Roosmalen, RIP, was also a favorite shopping spot for me.
The error goodies come & go.
Good Times ! Act quick or regret it
Here is a unique Proof Ike Dollar overstruck off center on a Peace Dollar.
(Dr Berry never saw this one)
I bought and sold it in 1974 and again in 2010:
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@Byers said:
Here is a unique Proof Ike Dollar overstruck off center on a Peace Dollar.
(Dr Berry never saw this one)
I bought and sold it in 1974 and again in 2010:
Amazing. Someone was having a lot of fun at the Mint. I just wish it was better positioned and we could still see Lady Liberty's face.
The 1973-S Proof Ike on dime/cent planchet chain pair looks like it was almost perfectly positioned. The 3 dime planchet clover was also positioned extremely well.
Zions- Yes it is perfectly positioned and extremely dramatic.
mikebyers.com Dealer in Major Mint Errors, Die Trials & Patterns - Author of NLG Best World Coin Book World's Greatest Mint Errors - Publisher & Editor of minterrornews.com.
As you are diggin through your error image/coin treasures Mike, can you please post images of the 1969D Half stuck thru a 1969D flip over Dime please ??? That pair are my all time favorite !
I find 2nd best thing to owning unique & cool errors is having images of them.
@Byers said:
Here is a unique Proof Ike Dollar overstruck off center on a Peace Dollar.
Comments
It's not me. It's PCGS, NGC, Heritage, Stack's Bowers, etc.
Change takes effort, effort that not many are willing to expend.
An example is that for as many people that express a desire for circulation coins to change back to Lady Liberty from Presidents, not a single person I've seen has indicated they have contacted their elected representatives on this.
How many people that think intentionally created oddities should not be classified as mint errors have made a case to catalogers or TPGs?
Ok, if PCGS, NGC, Heritage and Stack's Bowers say so then . How much money would any of those entities stand to lose (or, at least, not earn), should these creations be recognized to be comparable to artificially created (read: fake) coins? Another rhetorical question.
People can believe whatever fictions they prefer.
I don't think it's about believing or not believing as I'm guessing the people buying these know exactly what they are and that it's not in dispute. Given this, I don't think people will lose that much.
For a comparison, look at this VF35 Continental Dollar that just sold for $1.1M even though these are now known to be European medals and not US currency. Some people think things will matter to price because it matters to them, but it doesn't really matter to the people buying them.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/colonials/1776-continental-dollar-curency-silver-newman-1-c-breen-1091-hodder-1-a3-w-8450-r8-vf35-ngc-cac/a/1329-3034.s?
A similar situation is the 1913 Liberty nickel. Some people don't consider them legit and won't buy them, but the people driving the prices don't think the same way.
I think his point is that whether (or not ) it should be the case, intentionally made creations have been and continue to be labeled as errors.
If that wasn’t his point, it’s mine.😉 I don’t think such coins should be called “errors”, but they are. And as can be the case with NT vs. AT, once you include intent in the equation, things get dicey and certain coins will be classified incorrectly, then, too.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Do you think there's anything dicey with classifying the three dimes?
No.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
NO
Looking forward to it!
Thanks for Mint Error News. It's a great asset to the hobby
I don't, either.
How do you suppose they were monetized? I mean- in order for them to be legal to own?
I have no idea.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I'm sorry, I didn't expect you to answer. It was another rhetorical question.
In 1972 when I was 15, my mom drove me to Lonesome John’s (John Devine) office/store/printing establishment in Newbury Park CA. He was the first full time error coin dealer.
I purchased his 3 piece proof mated Ike Dollars on nickel blanks that was a 3 leaf clover. Then my mom drove me to Dr A.K. Berry’s dental office in Alhambra CA.
Dr Berry had a world class error coin collection. He purchased it from me. The U.S. Secret Service examined it and had no interest in it.
Years later, Dr Berry’s coin collection was donated and now it resides in the ANA Museum in Colorado. It includes the 3 leaf clover of proof Ikes on nickel blanks.
Cool story!
Great story and cool pieces?
Do any photos of this exist?
@CaptHenway did you ever see this at the ANA?
I am looking for one picture that Lonesome John took and developed it and then mailed to me. It was so long ago.
Fred Weinberg knows about this Ike clover leaf ( 3 nickel planchets) but I don’t know if he ever saw it or not.
My opinion:
Super interesting to look at.
Zero interest in spending $10 on it.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
A real conundrum...
Obviously the result of intentional shenanigans, but valuable only because such shenanigans are not still occurring.
…money talks…intelligence is hogtied and ball-gagged…that’s life fellas
Same as 1804 Class III dollars
Intentional or not I prefer properly made coins of early die state and immaculate state of preservation.
Zions-
Your post is spot on. There are many restrikes, pattern orphans and other accepted rarities that are the result of intentional shenanigans...
From Year One of San Francisco Mint's reopening after being shuttered in 1956
Yes, I was still at ANACS when the Dr. Berry Collection came into the Museum, and the Curator at the time asked my opinion of the various pieces.
And what is your opinion of these?
Anything else memorable?
1973D Mint Set Only Ike with Incomplete Clip in mint package
Very cool. Did San Francisco strike any of the SMS coins?
Nice softpack error!
I should send this one to ATS as well:
Yes, 1965 SMS 1966 SMS & 1967 SMS are all struck without S Mintmark.
Ah nice. Bill Gale's GovMint says the following. What were the Ordnance Department presses originally used to strike?
Between my mom driving me to Lonesome John’s and then to Dr Berry’s a few times when I was 15, and then subsequently driving myself at 16 and 17, I made a total of 12 trips.
Lonesome John had the most amazing proof error coins which I bought and then sold to Dr Berry. Most were unique and spectacular but the clover leaf proof Ike $ on Nickel blanks was by far my favorite.
Nothing came close until almost 50 years later ( now) when the proof Ike $ clover leaf on Dime blanks and the proof Ike $ mated on Dime/Copper Cent blanks surfaced.
Great story.
I looked up the cert for @FredWeinberg's specimen and noticed that it was sequential when the huge staple coin that I posted a while back. Looking into this more, there was a good sized collection of Ike errors that came into PCGS along with some Kennedy Half Dollars. Someone had a great collection. Is the owner of this collection known Here are the Ikes.
Over time, decades ago, I saw two different ANA Displays of Dr Berry's awesome errors.
I do not recall ever seeing quad cloverleaf nickels struck by Ike dies on display at ANA.
Maybe ANA cashed them out decades ago as they were not listed on this 2 sided Dr Berry error coin inventory xerox I received from Bill Fivaz & JT Stanton's ANA Summer Seminar Mint Error Class in early 1990's
LindyS- it wasn’t quad, it was a 3 piece clover leaf proof Ike on Nickel blanks as I described.
Fred Weinberg knows about this clover leaf but I don’t know if he ever saw it...
There are several unique Ike $ error coins that I sold Dr Berry ( that I bought from Lonesome John) that are NOT on the 2 pg list that circulated a couple of decades ago...
So it’s possible that they were sold first or were not listed...
I do not see it on ANA inventory list I just posted above.
Sadly, I do not recall seeing a 3 piece nickel struck by Ike dies clover leaf way back when Dr Barry's error goodies were on display. No clover leaves displayed at all. They seemed meticulous in their displaying of a few 2 piece mated Ike sets. They pointed out how they fit together. I was centerpiece of the exhibit, both times.
Maybe ANA sold them off, separately, not realizing they were a 3 piece mated chain set ?
Or they were never put on display as I do not recall seeing them ?
Or maybe I am missing a 3rd ANA Dr AK Berry inventory sheet ?
They are not listed in later edition of Judd Patterns' Ike errors section either.
LindyS- any of your 3 senarios are possible but I hope they weren’t sold individually not realizing that they were a mated clover leaf😳
I wonder how Fred's specimen got separated and how to get them back together.
I wonder if the owner of the adjoining piece even knows if the other piece is available now.
I am guessing Jon Sullivan mated the two piece set. I recall seeing them there 1st in an email, maybe.
I visit Fred's & Jon's sites often. Some error goodies pop up & then disappear, just like that...
I see some unique goodies then listed for 2x to 3x the retail money, like $500 becomes $1,500 elsewhere or these unusual errors go dark, never to be seen again.
Zions- it is more likely that Fred’s proof Ike on the dime blank is the lone survivor.
Jon Sullivan sold a proof Ike on a cent blank, also with a straight edge ( meaning mated to another planchet as a chain strike) from a DIFFERENT long- time error collection, and it has never been matched.
I wonder if the dime planchets should have been connected with silver solder before striking? Would they stay together after the force of being struck?
Lonesome John printed my error coin catalog in 1975.
In it is a 3 piece proof Kennedy mint error, that Dr Berry passed on. It was only one of a few proof errors that Dr Berry passed on.
This one ?
https://www.sullivannumismatics.com/coin/ngc-1-proof-eisenhower-dollar-cent-planchet-pf65-rb
LindyS - yes
Good info in that description:
Good info on population. Are there just two now? This, along with Mike's 1972-S Proof.
Given that this was in a Halpern catalog, do we know if Natalie Halpern should be listed as part of the provenance?
Zions- Yes!
The one that Jon sold
And the one in my mated set
Fred's current Ike on Dime planchet goodie
https://www.fredweinberg.com/product/1971-4-ike-dollar-on-clad-dime-pcgs-proof-67-cameo/
I would have less interesting errors with out Fred & Jon 's constantly changing error coin inventory.
Len Roosmalen, RIP, was also a favorite shopping spot for me.
The error goodies come & go.
Good Times ! Act quick or regret it
Here is a unique Proof Ike Dollar overstruck off center on a Peace Dollar.
(Dr Berry never saw this one)
I bought and sold it in 1974 and again in 2010:
Amazing. Someone was having a lot of fun at the Mint. I just wish it was better positioned and we could still see Lady Liberty's face.
The 1973-S Proof Ike on dime/cent planchet chain pair looks like it was almost perfectly positioned. The 3 dime planchet clover was also positioned extremely well.
Zions- Yes it is perfectly positioned and extremely dramatic.
INSANE !!! Mind Blown !!!!
I have never seen any Ike struck on PEACE before
As you are diggin through your error image/coin treasures Mike, can you please post images of the 1969D Half stuck thru a 1969D flip over Dime please ??? That pair are my all time favorite !
I find 2nd best thing to owning unique & cool errors is having images of them.