2019-W & 2020-W Washington Quarters......Key-dates?
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Would these quarters be considered key-dates, since there were only 2M of each series minted?
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sounds reasonable, at least as far as post-1999 quarters are concerned.
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Yes. The demand is real for these quarters
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I consider them semi-keys. The uncirculated "S" quarters (2012-2021) all have lower mintages (some less than 900,000) and carry much lower price tags.
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No. Maybe they would be keys if they circulated, but a VERY high percentage of them has been removed from the banks before they got a chance to circulate. If 2,000,000 were minted and 80% or 1,600,000 are in the hands of collectors/speculators, which I think is a reasonable ballpark, then they are not remotely keys. Compare the mintages to the Classic Commems, most of which also didn't circulate. I think you'll be able to get all you want for $10-20 for the lifetimes of anyone reading this today.
Of course extremely high grades will have markets, but that is true for non-key dates as well. I think other dates will end up having higher values in key grades because when someone comes across a 67 quality Weir Farm 2020 d, he won't necessarily save it, but every single w is going to be saved.
The "W" quarters are being pulled out of circulation very quickly. The mintage may seem low but the survival rate in high grade is going to be very high. They may bring some premium but are never going to be truly scarce or rare. If collecting the Washington quarter series becomes more popular in the future then their premium will rise. They need the series to be popular if they are to be popular.
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Much lower price tags because the DEMAND is lower for them and the collector can/could buy them directly from the mint for their collection unlike the W quarters.
Like the Grinch telling the Whos of Whoville about their unwanted Christmas gifts he finds discarded in the trash, I am finding proof like S quarters in the old coin rolls I search looking for the W.🤣😂
Also, the S quarters are produced every year unlike the 2019 W quarters and 2020 W with privy mark that were produced only 1 year respectively.
From what I read about the characteristics of a key date coin this is what I feel applied the most to the W quarters:
"The key date is usually the most expensive coin in the collection"
I believe the W quarters will always be the most expensive to buy for the collector of the America the Beautiful quarter series.
I agree that they are being pulled out of circulation to some degree but I am still finding on occassion a Lowell W quarter and other 2019 W in the old coin rolls that I search 2 years after they were released.
Finding a W quarter is still like finding a needle in a haystack!
Regarding the popularity of the America the Beautiful quarter program I believe it is already popular thus the reason why they are worth the most of any raw quarter in the series which makes them a key date coin. 😎
Well... the 1995W ASE is a key.... but at a mintage of 30K it is significantly less than W quarters. I have a couple of W's, but none found in the wild yet. Cheers, RickO
Well, I just sold a circulated Samoa (Baby-Bat) W quarter for $19 on eBay. That's a <1 year old modern circulated quarter, I would have to say that's key (IMO).
In my humble opinion. This W Quarter
IS a Key coin. An aspect of any key coin requires two main purposes. One, low mintage. Two, popularity. In high demand. Ala the father of the Washington quarter. The 1932s and d. Just as these old dinosaurs that were let out into the public. The "W" Quarters, also are lowly minted, popular and let out into the public. Thank you, U.S. Mint.
I believe, even though the W program has ended. I can see maybe in 2022, them making a COMEBACK! Wishful thinking.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.You'd have to restrict that assessment to business strikes only. Proof issues (clad and silver) are much lower in mintage as are the enhanced uncirculated sets of 2017 with only 210,000 minted (approx).
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Hold out for high grade examples.
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The 1932p and d.
Joey- Don't you mean the S and D?
You mean hold out until a higher grade pops out of a roll? I'm thinking the longer one waits, the worse the conditions get.
I believe he means wait to buy the graded slabs of high grade W as their prices drop but at some point they do level off and hold steady from what I have seen on Ebay
I guess one of my questions is; how long will this fad last? If, in fact it is a fad?
I'm seeing where a whole roll of Tallgrass W's are going for over $600!!
Speaking of grading these things, I'm thinking 67 is about topped out.
I would buy one as they became available.
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No one can predict when the bubble pops on a fad.
Also, I believe many dealers feel the W quarters are a fad based on the negative comments from many members here in the past and the negative attitudes from dealers at the FUN coin show back in January 2020. Most of them were dismissive of the W quarters when I asked if they had any to sell.
However, I believe the W quarters are an important part of the America the Beautiful quarter program and thus they should not be considered a fad. Only time will tell if the dealers or me are correct.😎
That's probably because it's the little guy, like you and me that are finding them. They don't have the time or financial incentive to look for them, they have to buy them.
Unless of course, they have an insider at the mint or Loomis (coin rolling companies) to help them out!
What do you mean? The highest grades are MS68 so far. I haven't seen a 69 or 70.
I was thinking MS67 Marsh Billings Rock... pop 14
Wherever the lowest pop fell
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Yes, you're right 68. Not many compared to the rest of the W population but they are out there.
I'm wondering if some of these W's were pulled out (right after they left the press) by mint employees "before" they were salted into the P's & D's! Won't be surprised to see slabbed 69's pop up several years from now!
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Yep, hopefully mainly from us guys here that watch out for these like a hawk. Lol
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.IMO dealers have no interest (ie. no profit) in coins of lower price, the real collector coins. The rest of us peons do like them for what they are.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Good! as to "profit". We shall see, right? $$$
I think, even the lower graded and/or more circulated ones will even carry a premium.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.In this case there had been a lot of discussion regarding the high price paid for "the label, not the coin" which I found confusing. They were acting like a First Discovery quarter wasn't worth the price someone paid for it as if it was their business.🙄
I have always stated my opinion that a coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it no matter what coin.😎
There has been a lot of profit made on these W quarters so the dealers that were snubbing them made themselves look very foolish to me!🤣😂
No, not a key date. Key date is one of the most over used terms in US collecting along with "rare". It's presumably at least somewhat hard to find from circulation due to the intentional artificial low mintage but not hard to buy.
Buy the coin, not the slab?..........Except I'm not a grader. Unfortunately, I couldn't tell you the difference between a 65 and a 66.
Not sure they can always either Sir.
I like these "W" quarters for what they are and I too was thrilled to get one in change from Chic Filet at LAX....
Well, just Love coins, period.
Buying "Discovery" or "Early Find" is strictly a slab buying endeavor. You can't slap "Discovery" on your 2x2 and have anyone care. Same with all the other labels: First Strike, Early Releases, Pre-Release, etc.
Yes, if we're on the same sheet of music. All those Discovery, First Strike, Early Release.....terms are just a gimmick as far as I'm concerned. Just something (IMHO) to catch the eye of the low information collector.
And here we go again! Just because you believe the labels are a gimmick doesn't mean the person that pays top dollar for a First Discovery label is a "low information " collector. 🙄
It's their money to spend on what they believe is a valuable coin.
Yes, that is very turn. I completely agree.
You might not believe it's a gimmick. I said I "believe" it's a gimmick by the TPG'ers. It's all about $$$$ Follow the money....it's a win-win for everyone. I believe the labeling is targeting the low information collector, not you. You're an educated collector.
I am not going to repeat the same debate. Enjoy your evening. I am getting on with mine.
I think the problem is your use of "low information collector".
You can recognize the "gimmick" and still think the label is worth having. There are people that like "First Strike" even though they know it doesn't really mean anything. And future value is more collected to interest and demand which could go with the label.
No problem.
OK, fine, in a low enough grade this is likely to be true. In sufficiently high grade the population of the w is going to be very high relative to the other mints because the did not circulate. You're likely to be able to get all the 2020 d Weir Farm quarters you'd want for $10-20 as well, and even at far cheaper prices, but I think in top grades the d is likelier to be hard to find.
I have not been able to acquire a "W" quarter in the wild but I do like them and have purchased many on the after market, all PCGS graded.
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They are on the way..
I'll repeat this opinion again for those who didn't see it:
I'm just sitting here wondering if we should "hold off" submitting these thing now. I'm wondering if a 67 coin today, would come back 68 or 69, 10 or 20 years from now!?!?