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1870 Carson City Seated Dollar

EddiEddi Posts: 506 ✭✭✭✭✭

This is another of the coins I added to my USA collection more than 3 decades ago. It was lot 361 of the Bowers and Merena Sale of the R. W. Rusbar Collection, 1990.
I would greatly appreciate your opinions on it.

Thank you!

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think EF with what looks like some cleaning in the obv fields and maybe around the eagle as well. Nearly perfect rims is always a plus on these heavy coins.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,454 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love that bit of rim toning.
    It’s better than most that you see, and you don’t see many of them!

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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Kaz. A nice looking early CC dollar coin in XF that appears to have been cleaned before starting to retone.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A nice old CC dollar... Looks like 35-40 range.... Would be happy to own that one. Cheers, RickO

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2021 7:36AM

    I'm calling it an XF40-45. Don't forget that early silver "CC" (1870-1874) silver coins get a grading break a lot of times.

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  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With the details in the eagle's feathers and shield, I would say EF45.

    thefinn
  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    The right obv field is really bothersome

  • thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @trueblood said:
    The right obv field is really bothersome

    It could just be thumbing that removed some of the tarnish.

    thefinn
  • CalifornianKingCalifornianKing Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭

    Noice! Looks cleaned but its rare. From what I heard there are only like 20 know? Or is that for the half dollar?

  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CalifornianKing said:
    From what I heard there are only like 20 know? Or is that for the half dollar?

    mintage ~11,758 to 12,462, but it is estimated that <1000 survive, and perhaps as low as an estimated 450-650

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  • SPalladinoSPalladino Posts: 872 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Eddi said:
    This is another of the coins I added to my USA collection more than 3 decades ago. It was lot 361 of the Bowers and Merena Sale of the R. W. Rusbar Collection, 1990.
    I would greatly appreciate your opinions on it.

    Appears to be Obverse 1 / Reverse-C. Date left. Widely spaced CC. "Used on some 1870-CC dollars and all 1872-CC dollars." https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1870-cc-1/6964

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  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SPalladino said:

    @Eddi said:
    This is another of the coins I added to my USA collection more than 3 decades ago. It was lot 361 of the Bowers and Merena Sale of the R. W. Rusbar Collection, 1990.
    I would greatly appreciate your opinions on it.

    Appears to be Obverse 1 / Reverse-C. Date left. Widely spaced CC. "Used on some 1870-CC dollars and all 1872-CC dollars." https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1870-cc-1/6964

    Why would the obv be categorized by numbers and rev by letters? Did the federal government come up with that cat. system?

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CalifornianKing said:
    Noice! Looks cleaned but its rare. From what I heard there are only like 20 know? Or is that for the half dollar?

    70-S is much harder to find, 70-CC is fairly easy.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say it has AU-50 sharpness, but the obverse and reverse field surfaces have been cleaned. It might get a straight grade, perhaps an EF net grade because CC coins sometimes catch some breaks, but the odds are it will go into a “details” holder. Even so, it’s a very attractive example of a scarce coin.

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  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45 cleaned but worth getting slabbed if you plan to sell. It’s better than your average Seated Dollar but not a coin I would want to own collection. I prefer original crust whenever possible. Thanks for sharing.

  • shishshish Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, probably net grades to EF-40 - 45 due to the hairlines in the fields.

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  • LazybonesLazybones Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have to see it in hand. Please send it to me.

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  • CalifornianKingCalifornianKing Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭

    @HoledandCreative said:

    @CalifornianKing said:
    Noice! Looks cleaned but its rare. From what I heard there are only like 20 know? Or is that for the half dollar?

    70-S is much harder to find, 70-CC is fairly easy.

    Well you got me there...

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