Good experiences with copper and copper nickel coins. Not so much with silver - it has not been easy for me to get a handle on what they are looking for.
Does anyone know if they are still doing walk throughs? Thanks.
@robbylu52 said:
Anybody have any experience with 2002-2004 submissions
Yes
If you're not a troll, the coin determines whether it CACs. You cannot tell from the vintage of the holder. There are "C" coins in holders of all vintages. And even where there have been changes in standards, they are not uniform but confined to specific series.
So, you can post as many words as you want, but one picture of a coin in slab would get you an answer. The rest is just meaningless questions that cannot possibly be answered.
From someone who has received 50+ Gold CAC stickers, never hope for a Gold sticker! You will jinx it!
In all seriousness, a gold CAC is given to a coin that would green CAC sticker at one numerical grade higher than the grade on the holder and will usually plus at that level as well - the coins tend to have a little more wow factor.
The merits of the individual coin dictate the sticker.
Contact CAC, and apply for a collector membership.
@jmlanzaf said:
Is it worth the price? Greysheet bid is $130 in 65 and $160 in 65CAC.
If it gets the CAC, it should have a better chance of receiving fair value when sold than not having the CAC.
Except if it costs me $30 (CAC + shipping) to get $30 when I risk losing $5-10 (shipping etc) if it doesn't bean, it is not such a straightforward calculation.
Graders and finalizers only spend a few seconds on each coin, some are undergraded due to the inherent conservatism of top companies. Odds are low that they were that far off. Cac wants to make submitters happy as they grading services do, but they are not going to go against their standards.
@winesteven said: @jmlanzaf - I think most collectors send in more than one coin per CAC submission to amortize the shipping costs (and the $5 per form submission fee).
I'm sure that's true. But if you send in 10 coins with round-trip shipping and insurance, it can easily run to $50 in fees which is where my $5 per coin fee came from.
@jmlanzaf said:
I'm sure that's true. But if you send in 10 coins with round-trip shipping and insurance, it can easily run to $50 in fees which is where my $5 per coin fee came from.
OK, fair enough.
My point really is though, that if it does sticker, it makes it much more likely of receiving "fair value" for the coin when the time comes to sell, and in the above theoretical case, the actual amount realized for this same coin with vs. without the sticker can be more than that $30 valuation difference you point out. I agree there's no way to know for sure. Regardless, for me (and many other collectors) they like to have the peace of mind of knowing there's a greater chance of getting fair value when the time comes to sell, even taking into account of the small costs involved in success (and failure).
Steve
A day without fine wine and working on your coin collection is like a day without sunshine!!!
@winesteven said: @jmlanzaf - I think most collectors send in more than one coin per CAC submission to amortize the shipping costs (and the $5 per form submission fee).
I'm sure that's true. But if you send in 10 coins with round-trip shipping and insurance, it can easily run to $50 in fees which is where my $5 per coin fee came from.
The trick is to send 40+ at a time.
On my last submission, my friend gave me an insured value of $1,000 on a coin that did not sticker, so no fee from CAC. It cost him $4.57 all in to send it, for his cut of shipping as a percentage of insured value of the whole submission. Total shipping charges were $172 for everything, for perspective. CAC fees were $525.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
@winesteven said:
Many "collectors" though find it impractical to wait to have 40+ coins to send in at one time.
Steve
That's why collectors should group together and submit together. I regularly submit for about 5 of my fellow collectors and we do subs every other month.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
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Well yes, but your experience will depend on your coins.
I want to submit a few very beautiful coins
The beautifuller the betters
2 CAC threads from the same newbie and still no pictures
Good experiences with copper and copper nickel coins. Not so much with silver - it has not been easy for me to get a handle on what they are looking for.
Does anyone know if they are still doing walk throughs? Thanks.
Submit and let us know how you do.
Without photos we can be of little help.
I have 5 gorgeous coins but who knows if they will sticker
Would a 2002-2004 pcgs holder qualify as more strictly graded
Or should it be even earlier as in green holder
Does anybody know
Anybody have any experience with 2002-2004 submissions
John Albanese> @robbylu52 said:
No> @robbylu52 said:
Yes
Yes
If you're not a troll, the coin determines whether it CACs. You cannot tell from the vintage of the holder. There are "C" coins in holders of all vintages. And even where there have been changes in standards, they are not uniform but confined to specific series.
So, you can post as many words as you want, but one picture of a coin in slab would get you an answer. The rest is just meaningless questions that cannot possibly be answered.
Thanks I will post shortly
How do I upload a picture
posting a photo:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12765899#Comment_12765899
also, post the pcgs cert numbers
Nice buff. Worth a shot.
the photos are too small and dark
get shots of just the coins, then post the cert number
Is it worth the price? Greysheet bid is $130 in 65 and $160 in 65CAC.
But what about the prestige of a green sticker? I have $30 coins that have been beaned. I am in!
That's a very clean and well struck nickel. What if it happened to gold bean?
Everyone makes that decision for themselves. But the question should be asked, regardless of what the answer is.
Hoping for a gold bean
Reposting bigger brighter photo Ms Morrine
Any advice appreciated if it might get gold sticker
No. Central obverse deep scratch.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Thanks for your insight
From someone who has received 50+ Gold CAC stickers, never hope for a Gold sticker! You will jinx it!
In all seriousness, a gold CAC is given to a coin that would green CAC sticker at one numerical grade higher than the grade on the holder and will usually plus at that level as well - the coins tend to have a little more wow factor.
The merits of the individual coin dictate the sticker.
Contact CAC, and apply for a collector membership.
Good luck.
If it gets the CAC, it should have a better chance of receiving fair value when sold than not having the CAC.
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Id hope for the diamond select bean, it's like the gold one only better.
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
Except if it costs me $30 (CAC + shipping) to get $30 when I risk losing $5-10 (shipping etc) if it doesn't bean, it is not such a straightforward calculation.
@jmlanzaf - I think most collectors send in more than one coin per CAC submission to amortize the shipping costs (and the $5 per form submission fee).
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
Probably not a gold sticker, but a green bean is possible. Submit and let us know - the experience is the path to learning. Cheers, RickO
Graders and finalizers only spend a few seconds on each coin, some are undergraded due to the inherent conservatism of top companies. Odds are low that they were that far off. Cac wants to make submitters happy as they grading services do, but they are not going to go against their standards.
I'm sure that's true. But if you send in 10 coins with round-trip shipping and insurance, it can easily run to $50 in fees which is where my $5 per coin fee came from.
OK, fair enough.
My point really is though, that if it does sticker, it makes it much more likely of receiving "fair value" for the coin when the time comes to sell, and in the above theoretical case, the actual amount realized for this same coin with vs. without the sticker can be more than that $30 valuation difference you point out. I agree there's no way to know for sure. Regardless, for me (and many other collectors) they like to have the peace of mind of knowing there's a greater chance of getting fair value when the time comes to sell, even taking into account of the small costs involved in success (and failure).
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
The trick is to send 40+ at a time.
On my last submission, my friend gave me an insured value of $1,000 on a coin that did not sticker, so no fee from CAC. It cost him $4.57 all in to send it, for his cut of shipping as a percentage of insured value of the whole submission. Total shipping charges were $172 for everything, for perspective. CAC fees were $525.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
Many "collectors" though find it impractical to wait to have 40+ coins to send in at one time.
Steve
My collecting “Pride & Joy” is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/design-type-sets/complete-dansco-7070-modified-type-set-1796-date/publishedset/213996
That's why collectors should group together and submit together. I regularly submit for about 5 of my fellow collectors and we do subs every other month.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
[thinks to self about last cac submission]...so, that's what happened...sigh
I've had PCGS Doilies not sticker. That's a headscratcher.
It sounds like they look at the coin, not the holder.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I can't imagine that's right.
😈
I can't get past the conflicting nature of these two topics.
We are in a hobby that requires many more dollars than sense......errrr cents lol
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™