Kind of off point, but then again...... frustrated when a certain dealers site says email for quote on a coin. So I did, TWICE. Never got a reply, so I look elsewhere. No names as that member is on the Forum.
Per the OP, clearly the response rubbed the potential customer the wrong way. With very little effort he could have made a more positive impression to a possible new customer.
@Gazes said:
With very little effort he could have made a more positive impression to a possible new customer.
Kind of hard to know how to do that if you don't know the customer. Some people would prefer an explanation of the decision to decline the offer, others just want a yes/no answer. Give the wrong type of answer to the wrong customer, and somebody ends up unhappy.
Per the OP, certainly others make offers on coins via email. An offer of 10% below asking price is completely within bounds, and I consider it to be a kind of "standard" offer for most coins. As far as I can recall, I have always received a polite response with a counter offer or an entreaty to purchase at the asking price along with some modest justification. To me, a response of "no thanks" indicates the dealer doesn't consider you to be a worthwhile expenditure of time.
Maybe your email was poorly written. Maybe you wrote something unintentionally offensive. Maybe the dealer is a jerk. Maybe the dealer is what I call a "museum owner", i.e., someone who is at the point where they don't need to sell anything to make ends meet, so your business - if at all inconvenient - is unwelcome.
In any case the next move is yours. If you want to establish a relationship with this dealer, pay his price to show him you are not a waste of time. Or just move on to the next dealer.
You got a reply, that's better that many unsolicited offers.
I understand the OP wants an explanation, but the dealer is under no obligation to provide details on his or her business model. And as a previous poster pointed out, if the dealer gives some explanation there is a decent chance that the person making the offer gets irritated with what they believe is an invalid explanation or at least flawed thinking.
I would just reply thanking them for their response and to please reach out if they are considering offers. And if you would prefer to discus on the phone mention that as the preferred communication method.
I was rejected once on what I considered a fair offer. Admittedly, the offer was declined politely with an explanation but no counteroffer. After another email exchange or two, the seller offered me this advice:
First three of the “NO’s”
Never talk about a budget – because the seller can offer you a 30-60 Layaway
Never say IF, because you aren’t committing to anything
When showing or talking about a competitive coin, make sure it available for sale.
YES’s
Be complementary about the coin and how it would fit nicely in the collection
Make a fair offer and be firm, or ask for the seller to provide his/her lowest price for immediate check payment (credit card cost money) because you're building a collection and need a lot more coins.
When you find a good deal, just buy it immediately.
Edit to add: The price on the Morgan was RAISED the next day. I came back to the same seller with a strong offer on a different Morgan a few months later. That offer was refused and again, the price was raised on the coin. Those two actions upset me far more the the initial declined offer exchanges.
I did not, and do not, expect an explanation of this dealer’s business model. Simple courtesy in their reply I did expect.
I agree that this dealer’s response to me meant that I was not worth their time. So, I will not be their customer, which is fine. It is a little odd, though, that this dealer is known for being friendly.
How is “no thanks “ not courteous? He could have ignored an unsolicited offer all together since he doesn’t mention on his site that he considers them, he could have responded with just “no” or some other more curt response.
Join the club, the collector's club of America. I get that kind of treatment when I am buying as well when I am selling. Heaven for bide if I every treat a dealer in such a way. No one said one has to be smart to be a dealer. Can't live with them can't live without them. Reminds me of my dating years. Thank goodness the majority of dealers are a lot nicer
@Gazes said:
With very little effort he could have made a more positive impression to a possible new customer.
Kind of hard to know how to do that if you don't know the customer. Some people would prefer an explanation of the decision to decline the offer, others just want a yes/no answer. Give the wrong type of answer to the wrong customer, and somebody ends up unhappy.
“Thanks for the offer but this is my best price”.
Above response would have taken three seconds longer and perspective buyer would have felt better.
@3stars said:
How is “no thanks “ not courteous? He could have ignored an unsolicited offer all together since he doesn’t mention on his site that he considers them, he could have responded with just “no” or some other more curt response.
Totally agree.
Life is too short to take a "No, thanks" as rude.
Jeepers, how high maintenance can you be that you need hand-holding to go with the POLITE response?
@Gazes said:
With very little effort he could have made a more positive impression to a possible new customer.
Kind of hard to know how to do that if you don't know the customer. Some people would prefer an explanation of the decision to decline the offer, others just want a yes/no answer. Give the wrong type of answer to the wrong customer, and somebody ends up unhappy.
“Thanks for the offer but this is my best price”.
Above response would have taken three seconds longer and perspective buyer would have felt better.
This prospective buyer might have felt the dealer was lying to him because he "knows" that he paid 25% less than that and had room. This prospective buyer might have felt he was being rudely dismissed because the dealer was unwilling to negotiate.
"No, thank you" is all that I would have required to be satisfied.
@jmlanzaf said:
This prospective buyer would have felt the dealer was lying to him because he "knows" that he paid 25% less than that and had room. This prospective buyer might have felt he was being rudely dismissed because the dealer was unwilling to negotiate.
"No, thank you" is all that I would have required to be satisfied.
You are making a supposition that is not supported by any of my statements. Also, you have misquoted the response, it was
no thanks
@jmlanzaf said:
This prospective buyer would have felt the dealer was lying to him because he "knows" that he paid 25% less than that and had room. This prospective buyer might have felt he was being rudely dismissed because the dealer was unwilling to negotiate.
"No, thank you" is all that I would have required to be satisfied.
You are making a supposition that is not supported by any of my statements. Also, you have misquoted the response, it was
no thanks
not
No, thank you.
There is a difference.
I meant it more as a hypothetical rather than a definite outcome.
To me, "no, thanks" is perfectly polite though a little terse. In fact, these days, it's usually "no thnx"
Some people just aren't chatty over email. Also, email "conversations" are highly dependent on how the other party receives the message. While the OPs message appears perfectly acceptable (to me), it may have been received by the dealer as ...
"Great, here's another random, cheapskate collector trying to chisel me down a price. Don't they know I have expenses and I can't sell coins for nothing? Yeah, and this guy hasn't even bought anything from me and he wants a discount? What am I, Walmart? Geez, don't these people know this is a business? I don't have time for this."
And the dealer responds ... no thanks. Which from the dealer would likely be viewed as response loaded with civility and restraint. But to the recipient, it's curt and rude.
Also ... if one thinks "no thanks" as a response to an emailed question is rude ... you may wish to avoid using email to communicate with a vast majority of college-age students.
Edited for spelling ...
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@astrorat said:
Some people just aren't chatty over email. Also, email "conversations" are highly dependent on how the other party receives the message. While the OPs message appears perfectly acceptable (to me), it may have been received by the dealer as ...
"Great, here's another random, cheapskate collector trying to chisel me down a price. Don't they know I have expenses and I can't sell coins for nothing? Yeah, and this guy hasn't even bought anything from me and he wants a discount? What am I, Walmart? Geez, don't these people know this is a business? I don't have time for this."
And the dealer responds ... no thanks. Which from the dealer would likely be viewed as response loaded with civility and restraint. But to the recipient, it's curt and rude.
Also ... if one thinks "no thanks" as a response to an emailed question is rude ... you may wish to avoid using email to communicate with a vast majority of college-age students.
Edited for spelling ...
You aren't kidding. I get emails from students all the time that, I'm sure, aren't meant to be rude but come across that way. Very often, they don't address me at all which I actually find better than when they start with my last name. I often get emails like this:
Lanzafame,
I'm going to have to turn in the homework late.
Now, addressing a Professor by just their last name would seem rude but it is somewhat generational. And when you are violating the rules of the class, it would seem appropriate to ASK for leniency not demand it. But, I don't get mad, life's too short.
True story, by the way. I had a student stop by my office to ask a question. Then he said, "By the way, do you prefer to be called "Joe" or "Lanzafame"?"
I laughed. "Are those the only two options?"
He looked confused.
I said. "I don't mind "Joe", but shouldn't it be "Dr. Lanzafame" or "Mr. Lanzafame" or "Professor Lanzafame" not just "Lanzafame"?"
@astrorat said:
Some people just aren't chatty over email. Also, email "conversations" are highly dependent on how the other party receives the message. While the OPs message appears perfectly acceptable (to me), it may have been received by the dealer as ...
"Great, here's another random, cheapskate collector trying to chisel me down a price. Don't they know I have expenses and I can't sell coins for nothing? Yeah, and this guy hasn't even bought anything from me and he wants a discount? What am I, Walmart? Geez, don't these people know this is a business? I don't have time for this."
And the dealer responds ... no thanks. Which from the dealer would likely be viewed as response loaded with civility and restraint. But to the recipient, it's curt and rude.
Also ... if one thinks "no thanks" as a response to an emailed question is rude ... you may wish to avoid using email to communicate with a vast majority of college-age students.
Edited for spelling ...
You aren't kidding. I get emails from students all the time that, I'm sure, aren't meant to be rude but come across that way. Very often, they don't address me at all which I actually find better than when they start with my last name. I often get emails like this:
Lanzafame,
I'm going to have to turn in the homework late.
Now, addressing a Professor by just their last name would seem rude but it is somewhat generational. And when you are violating the rules of the class, it would seem appropriate to ASK for leniency not demand it. But, I don't get mad, life's too short.
True story, by the way. I had a student stop by my office to ask a question. Then he said, "By the way, do you prefer to be called "Joe" or "Lanzafame"?"
I laughed. "Are those the only two options?"
He looked confused.
I said. "I don't mind "Joe", but shouldn't it be "Dr. Lanzafame" or "Mr. Lanzafame" or "Professor Lanzafame" not just "Lanzafame"?"
I think it's just generational.
Just in case ... the LOL was laughing with you, not at you!
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@rays said:
I agree that this dealer’s response to me meant that I was not worth their time.
That's how you're interpreting the reply from a dealer you say is known to be friendly? Why would you choose to read that into his response? I mean- you're certainly welcome to but it seems counterproductive, if you're interested in buying a coin he has for sale.
Not that any further opinions are needed here but I treat negotiating a little differently, which has worked out reasonably well for me.
...
I am interested in [coin]. I will buy it if you can do [my price]. Otherwise I will pass. Please let me know. Thanks.
...
1-step negotiation, they agree or not and we both move on. I get the sense that dealers dont want to deal with protracted negotiation or uncertainty re: commitment to buy.
On the other hand I am not lowballing anyone, my offers are always (in my opinion) very reasonable. Occassionally I've provided auction references to justify my number. I try to keep message as short as possible.
@3stars said:
How is “no thanks “ not courteous? He could have ignored an unsolicited offer all together since he doesn’t mention on his site that he considers them, he could have responded with just “no” or some other more curt response.
That is a problem with email. When you read "no thanks" it sounds courteous to you. When I read "no thanks" (in the present context) it sounds like "f**k off".
Yes, a short response, but polite. I will join those who think you are making too much of this. May be his style, he may have been tired, busy or distracted...Let it go. Cheers, RickO
In summary, some people are incredibly rude and other people are incredibly sensitive. Everyone else falls somewhere in between and can even change from moment to moment. Life's too short to get upset because someone falls differently on the spectrum than you. If it means that you don't want to interact with someone because you view them as too rude or too sensitive, then so be it. Just move on.
The difficult part is that most people think their position on the "politeness scale" is the exact middle/"correct" position.
@3stars said:
How is “no thanks “ not courteous? He could have ignored an unsolicited offer all together since he doesn’t mention on his site that he considers them, he could have responded with just “no” or some other more curt response.
That is a problem with email. When you read "no thanks" it sounds courteous to you. When I read "no thanks" (in the present context) it sounds like "f**k off".
Better not go to any shows and make an offer, no thanks is a preferred response compared to others I have heard.
@Davideo said:
You got a reply, that's better that many unsolicited offers.
I understand the OP wants an explanation, but the dealer is under no obligation to provide details on his or her business model. And as a previous poster pointed out, if the dealer gives some explanation there is a decent chance that the person making the offer gets irritated with what they believe is an invalid explanation or at least flawed thinking.
I would just reply thanking them for their response and to please reach out if they are considering offers. And if you would prefer to discus on the phone mention that as the preferred communication method.
Excellent. I would add that an astute dealer might also add to such a response something like,, "While this coin is not negotiable, if you see something else that you like feel free to inquire."
If you do not like the reply you received on the first coin you asked about I would guess you will not receive the service you want on others as well. Might be best to move on to other dealers.
When I see a coin I like I email the dealer, tell them the coin I am interested in, and ask what their best price is. Some say the price listed on the site and many say if paying by check a discount can be had. After a few buys, they normally automatically email me a lower cash/check price. Some dealers post on their site "we've posted this coin at our best price". No need to ask for a price on those coins.
I am definitely moving on, there are other dealers in the material I am interested in. The coin I made the offer on I still want, but there will be other examples available down the line.
My original point in this thread was to determine if others had had success in making offers on coins on dealer's websites, since other than auctions/eBay, this is the new normal for now. This was the first time I tried this via email and it obviously was not successful.
To your point, of course, SOME dealers are open to offers via their website (or even this thing called a phone):
Called up the dealer, Hey NAME, it's MYNAME from LOCATION (because I've bought from him several times, know him from the show circuit, etc.). I see you just posted COIN that I need for my set, what's the best we can do? Names a price. Great, I'll mail a check tomorrow, don't sell it at NEXTSHOW.
It was about $100 cheaper than he was listing it for on the website and $225 less than he had it on fleaBay, but he also didn't have to pay 4% swipe charges or 14% on fleaBay/PayPal. I've also had this dealer hold it for me for the show, paid cash and it's presold so he doesn't have to worry about carrying it home (important for a dealer who has to decide which 200 coins of his 10,000 inventory to bring to the show)
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@BStrauss3 said:
To your point, of course, SOME dealers are open to offers via their website (or even this thing called a phone):
Called up the dealer, Hey NAME, it's MYNAME from LOCATION (because I've bought from him several times, know him from the show circuit, etc.). I see you just posted COIN that I need for my set, what's the best we can do? Names a price. Great, I'll mail a check tomorrow, don't sell it at NEXTSHOW.
It was about $100 cheaper than he was listing it for on the website and $225 less than he had it on fleaBay, but he also didn't have to pay 4% swipe charges or 14% on fleaBay/PayPal. I've also had this dealer hold it for me for the show, paid cash and it's presold so he doesn't have to worry about carrying it home (important for a dealer who has to decide which 200 coins of his 10,000 inventory to bring to the show)
Who is this idiot dealer who is paying 6% more than eBay charges?
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Kind of off point, but then again...... frustrated when a certain dealers site says email for quote on a coin. So I did, TWICE. Never got a reply, so I look elsewhere. No names as that member is on the Forum.
Per the OP, clearly the response rubbed the potential customer the wrong way. With very little effort he could have made a more positive impression to a possible new customer.
Kind of hard to know how to do that if you don't know the customer. Some people would prefer an explanation of the decision to decline the offer, others just want a yes/no answer. Give the wrong type of answer to the wrong customer, and somebody ends up unhappy.
Did the dealers website have a make on offer option or was it unsolicited?
There was no such option. It has add item to cart and then checkout and pay only.
Per the OP, certainly others make offers on coins via email. An offer of 10% below asking price is completely within bounds, and I consider it to be a kind of "standard" offer for most coins. As far as I can recall, I have always received a polite response with a counter offer or an entreaty to purchase at the asking price along with some modest justification. To me, a response of "no thanks" indicates the dealer doesn't consider you to be a worthwhile expenditure of time.
Maybe your email was poorly written. Maybe you wrote something unintentionally offensive. Maybe the dealer is a jerk. Maybe the dealer is what I call a "museum owner", i.e., someone who is at the point where they don't need to sell anything to make ends meet, so your business - if at all inconvenient - is unwelcome.
In any case the next move is yours. If you want to establish a relationship with this dealer, pay his price to show him you are not a waste of time. Or just move on to the next dealer.
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I don’t think my email was poorly written. Here it is (slightly redacted):
Hello (dealer),
I am inquiring about the (subject coin). Could you accept an offer of $xxx (paid by check)?
Thank you for your consideration,
Doesn't sound poorly written. Short and to the point, perhaps that's why you received the response you did.
Your email looks fine to me. I'd say the "issue" is on the dealers end, up to you if you want to pursue a relationship or not.
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You got a reply, that's better that many unsolicited offers.
I understand the OP wants an explanation, but the dealer is under no obligation to provide details on his or her business model. And as a previous poster pointed out, if the dealer gives some explanation there is a decent chance that the person making the offer gets irritated with what they believe is an invalid explanation or at least flawed thinking.
I would just reply thanking them for their response and to please reach out if they are considering offers. And if you would prefer to discus on the phone mention that as the preferred communication method.
I was rejected once on what I considered a fair offer. Admittedly, the offer was declined politely with an explanation but no counteroffer. After another email exchange or two, the seller offered me this advice:
First three of the “NO’s”
Never talk about a budget – because the seller can offer you a 30-60 Layaway
Never say IF, because you aren’t committing to anything
When showing or talking about a competitive coin, make sure it available for sale.
YES’s
Be complementary about the coin and how it would fit nicely in the collection
Make a fair offer and be firm, or ask for the seller to provide his/her lowest price for immediate check payment (credit card cost money) because you're building a collection and need a lot more coins.
When you find a good deal, just buy it immediately.
Edit to add: The price on the Morgan was RAISED the next day. I came back to the same seller with a strong offer on a different Morgan a few months later. That offer was refused and again, the price was raised on the coin. Those two actions upset me far more the the initial declined offer exchanges.
I did not, and do not, expect an explanation of this dealer’s business model. Simple courtesy in their reply I did expect.
I agree that this dealer’s response to me meant that I was not worth their time. So, I will not be their customer, which is fine. It is a little odd, though, that this dealer is known for being friendly.
How is “no thanks “ not courteous? He could have ignored an unsolicited offer all together since he doesn’t mention on his site that he considers them, he could have responded with just “no” or some other more curt response.
Join the club, the collector's club of America. I get that kind of treatment when I am buying as well when I am selling. Heaven for bide if I every treat a dealer in such a way. No one said one has to be smart to be a dealer. Can't live with them can't live without them. Reminds me of my dating years. Thank goodness the majority of dealers are a lot nicer
“Thanks for the offer but this is my best price”.
Above response would have taken three seconds longer and perspective buyer would have felt better.
Totally agree.
Life is too short to take a "No, thanks" as rude.
Jeepers, how high maintenance can you be that you need hand-holding to go with the POLITE response?
This prospective buyer might have felt the dealer was lying to him because he "knows" that he paid 25% less than that and had room. This prospective buyer might have felt he was being rudely dismissed because the dealer was unwilling to negotiate.
"No, thank you" is all that I would have required to be satisfied.
You are making a supposition that is not supported by any of my statements. Also, you have misquoted the response, it was
no thanks
not
No, thank you.
There is a difference.
I meant it more as a hypothetical rather than a definite outcome.
To me, "no, thanks" is perfectly polite though a little terse. In fact, these days, it's usually "no thnx"
Some people just aren't chatty over email. Also, email "conversations" are highly dependent on how the other party receives the message. While the OPs message appears perfectly acceptable (to me), it may have been received by the dealer as ...
"Great, here's another random, cheapskate collector trying to chisel me down a price. Don't they know I have expenses and I can't sell coins for nothing? Yeah, and this guy hasn't even bought anything from me and he wants a discount? What am I, Walmart? Geez, don't these people know this is a business? I don't have time for this."
And the dealer responds ... no thanks. Which from the dealer would likely be viewed as response loaded with civility and restraint. But to the recipient, it's curt and rude.
Also ... if one thinks "no thanks" as a response to an emailed question is rude ... you may wish to avoid using email to communicate with a vast majority of college-age students.
Edited for spelling ...
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You aren't kidding. I get emails from students all the time that, I'm sure, aren't meant to be rude but come across that way. Very often, they don't address me at all which I actually find better than when they start with my last name. I often get emails like this:
Lanzafame,
I'm going to have to turn in the homework late.
Now, addressing a Professor by just their last name would seem rude but it is somewhat generational. And when you are violating the rules of the class, it would seem appropriate to ASK for leniency not demand it. But, I don't get mad, life's too short.
True story, by the way. I had a student stop by my office to ask a question. Then he said, "By the way, do you prefer to be called "Joe" or "Lanzafame"?"
I laughed. "Are those the only two options?"
He looked confused.
I said. "I don't mind "Joe", but shouldn't it be "Dr. Lanzafame" or "Mr. Lanzafame" or "Professor Lanzafame" not just "Lanzafame"?"
I think it's just generational.
Just in case ... the LOL was laughing with you, not at you!
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I hate email...
Despise it...
Gotta wade thru 50 trash to see one legit email.
Usually only reply when somebody picks up the phone and calls me... only half kidding.
Beautiful thing about ebay or this forum. Built in Filter...Typically respond to only people who have a reason to contact me.
I am also short and to the point, but always polite.
Not too hard to say "No thanks. I will pass at this time (or got to have $xx). Thank for for looking!"
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That's how you're interpreting the reply from a dealer you say is known to be friendly? Why would you choose to read that into his response? I mean- you're certainly welcome to but it seems counterproductive, if you're interested in buying a coin he has for sale.
Not that any further opinions are needed here but I treat negotiating a little differently, which has worked out reasonably well for me.
...
I am interested in [coin]. I will buy it if you can do [my price]. Otherwise I will pass. Please let me know. Thanks.
...
1-step negotiation, they agree or not and we both move on. I get the sense that dealers dont want to deal with protracted negotiation or uncertainty re: commitment to buy.
On the other hand I am not lowballing anyone, my offers are always (in my opinion) very reasonable. Occassionally I've provided auction references to justify my number. I try to keep message as short as possible.
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That is a problem with email. When you read "no thanks" it sounds courteous to you. When I read "no thanks" (in the present context) it sounds like "f**k off".
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Yes, a short response, but polite. I will join those who think you are making too much of this. May be his style, he may have been tired, busy or distracted...Let it go. Cheers, RickO
In summary, some people are incredibly rude and other people are incredibly sensitive. Everyone else falls somewhere in between and can even change from moment to moment. Life's too short to get upset because someone falls differently on the spectrum than you. If it means that you don't want to interact with someone because you view them as too rude or too sensitive, then so be it. Just move on.
The difficult part is that most people think their position on the "politeness scale" is the exact middle/"correct" position.
Better not go to any shows and make an offer, no thanks is a preferred response compared to others I have heard.
Excellent. I would add that an astute dealer might also add to such a response something like,, "While this coin is not negotiable, if you see something else that you like feel free to inquire."
If you do not like the reply you received on the first coin you asked about I would guess you will not receive the service you want on others as well. Might be best to move on to other dealers.
When I see a coin I like I email the dealer, tell them the coin I am interested in, and ask what their best price is. Some say the price listed on the site and many say if paying by check a discount can be had. After a few buys, they normally automatically email me a lower cash/check price. Some dealers post on their site "we've posted this coin at our best price". No need to ask for a price on those coins.
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I am definitely moving on, there are other dealers in the material I am interested in. The coin I made the offer on I still want, but there will be other examples available down the line.
My original point in this thread was to determine if others had had success in making offers on coins on dealer's websites, since other than auctions/eBay, this is the new normal for now. This was the first time I tried this via email and it obviously was not successful.
To your point, of course, SOME dealers are open to offers via their website (or even this thing called a phone):
Called up the dealer, Hey NAME, it's MYNAME from LOCATION (because I've bought from him several times, know him from the show circuit, etc.). I see you just posted COIN that I need for my set, what's the best we can do? Names a price. Great, I'll mail a check tomorrow, don't sell it at NEXTSHOW.
It was about $100 cheaper than he was listing it for on the website and $225 less than he had it on fleaBay, but he also didn't have to pay 4% swipe charges or 14% on fleaBay/PayPal. I've also had this dealer hold it for me for the show, paid cash and it's presold so he doesn't have to worry about carrying it home (important for a dealer who has to decide which 200 coins of his 10,000 inventory to bring to the show)
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Who is this idiot dealer who is paying 6% more than eBay charges?
This dealer is just a person with a very low Emotional Quotient. They are everywhere, as you probably noticed.
It's one of the hazards of dealing with people you don't know.
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