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Will it CAC?

Thinking about submitting my 1809 Bust Dime for CAC.
Grading is very conservative, surface is a nice Battleship gray.
However, 2 small rim nicks and a small mark in the right obverse field.


  • It's graded F-15

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fine 15? Would help to have more detailed images to pass judgment.
    Good luck

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2021 3:09PM

    Looks CAC worthy for a FN15 grade. I'd think it would green yet probably not gold (as the problems you state would prevent it).

    I am a bit curious though as to why you would want to do so. Anyone who collects these early dimes will see it for the strong attributes it has and not need CAC's approval.


  • vplite99vplite99 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭✭

    Please let us know.

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, that is a CAC coin IMO!

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  • Good point braddick. It really shouldn't matter if it stickers. As I was looking to upgrade, a VF-25 became avail, and then I decided to compare it with mine. I was amazed at how close mine compares both w/details & appearance, and I thought about sending it out. As most of my Bust dimes, quarters & halves are CAC'd, the premium they bring when I find a nice upgrade makes it worth giving it a shot.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, definitely, if you think it will CAC gold. I was under the impression on your original post you didn't think it would.


  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2021 4:26PM

    There is no way I could see the surfaces well enough to tell you. If it fails, it will likely be because of surfaces (e.g. hairlines that might not show),

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes - CAC green

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  • CrustyCrusty Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My vote - Green bean worthy

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 12, 2021 6:35PM

    I vote Yes.

    Looks unmolested, which is what CAC appreciates.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very nice example, and I would hope that CAC thinks so too.

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  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @winesteven raises excellent points.
    For his first point, the older/classic issues (where PCGS/NGC population numbers are not likely to increase substantially over time) CAC approval will certainly add value.
    To his second point, when your heirs sell the coin, savvy buyers may make the assumption that the coin was submitted to CAC and did not pass, and will factor that assumption into their buy offers.
    If you are a collector submitter, it is my understanding that CAC will not bill you for a coin that does not pass. You are still out shipping costs.
    Based on you photos the coin does not show obvious problems and may pass CAC, IMHO.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It appears - from those pictures - that it will receive a sticker.... would like better pictures... but go ahead and send it in.... Let us know what happens. Cheers, RickO

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    so now we can consider several small, tilted not really focused images and determine worthiness at CAC??

    when will the madness stop??

  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yeah, be sure to let us know what happens

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin looks okay. I would not bother with a CAC review on this one as it simply is not needed. A straight on photo would help with assessing the grade but if folks need a confidence booster at this grade level, it seems that there are larger issues at play.

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  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    Just from the mile away photos an easy green sticker

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    The coin looks okay. I would not bother with a CAC review on this one as it simply is not needed. A straight on photo would > help with assessing the grade but if folks need a confidence booster at this grade level, it seems that there are larger
    issues at play.

    One could argue the same about having the coin certified. In fact, that was argued in the late-1980s before the dependence on TPGs became epidemic.

    Why is this coin even in a TPG holder? Clearly, if you know the series, there is no need. Then again, the current market says different. Early Bust material benefits greatly (value wise) form being certified (preferably by PCGS) and with CAC approval. To disregard this places the collector at a financial disadvantage.

    As a collector, submitting "nice, original" Bust/Seated/Barber coins to CAC is a no-brainer. The increase in liquidity far outweighs the costs associated with the sticker. No sticker? Then you just got a almost free reality check on your ability to spot accurately graded, original coins.

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let us know what the results are.
    Wayne :)

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  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sweet example! I have no clue about stickers, but I believe it screams 'originality!' ... love it!


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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I really like it for the details I can see but I can't see enough to determine CAC or not. .. I hope it works out for you.

    At first glance at the pics in the OP, I thought it holdered at 20...

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  • goldengolden Posts: 8,807 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote yes.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Worth trying; they like wholesome eye appealing original coins.

    I had a reject recently on a Bust half with a planchet flaw which is what was indicated on their red sticker for the reason.

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