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What storage method caused this toning?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

As I've never seen another Vancouver with this kind of toning progression.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,746 ✭✭✭✭✭

    nice!

    Frank

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have know idea ... but I really like it!

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you seen other types of coins with "this kind of toning progression"?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very pretty. And I belong to the Ricko fan club.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    Have you seen other types of coins with "this kind of toning progression"?

    None come to mind as I type this.

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  • AuldFartteAuldFartte Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭✭

    I don't have any idea, but I know I want it!

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is nothing but a guess, but maybe cellophane? Wrinkles in the plastic film could account for the wavy nature of the toning.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are we suspecting AT here? B)

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it may have been stored in tissue paper inside of a small, manila envelope.

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Though more colorful than average, it does not look out of line with toning I would expect on a Vancouver.

    Higashiyama
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinsarefun said:
    I’ve seen similar obverse color bands on the obverse of Morgan’s

    That was the closest association that came to mind for me, as well.

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  • chesterbchesterb Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the reverse more than the obverse. The obverse doesn’t look natural to me but again that’s just me. It may look different and more natural in hand.

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When it looks like an oil slick that speaks to chemical aids to me but I am way more skeptical than the average toning fan

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you see the three 'bubbles' in the left facing field, in front of the portrait, and also smaller ones in the right facing field? When you see this type of non-uniformity, in the surface color, it tells me that it is not natural and that someone played with it.

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They can do all kinds of things with toning these days. Has it any provenance? Or was it only recently, ahem, discovered?

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:
    Ammo box under a Joshua tree in the Mojave Desert for several years.

    I actually had that "oily" look with some walkers I had in an ammo can for a couple of decades.....I forgot all about them in a move. Unfortunately mine also had some sore of PVC type residue on them. The can had auto parts, nuts and bolts, etc before it was a walker box.
    Mine would never have graded but some were pretty and nice, sans PVC crap.

    bob :)
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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that the obv bubble shaped spots kinda look like air bubbles interfered with a chemical? coming into contact with the surface during exposure. IMO. Peace Roy

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Namvet69 said:
    I agree that the obv bubble shaped spots kinda look like air bubbles interfered with a chemical? coming into contact with the surface during exposure. IMO. Peace Roy

    What if someone sneezed on the coin before it toned?

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yup, mucous would also do the trick. Peace Roy

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  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 11, 2021 8:13AM

    While the obverse color pattern may be somewhat distinctive, the color palette and the chromium luster are very characteristic of originally toned Vancouvers.

    The coin has been slabbed by PCGS at least three times. It currently resides in an MS67+ slab. In previous incarnations, it could be found in the following MS66+ slabs:

    In the first slab pictured above, it was sold by Heritage in July, 2019 for about $ 2600.

    In the second slab pictured above, it was sold by Heritage in Feb, 2020 for about $3200.

    In an MS67+ slab, it is obviously more valuable. But, I suspect that the True Views are a bit "exuberant" and if we had the coin in hand, it would be clear that it is original and has not been messed with.

    Higashiyama

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