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1955 DDO Authentic or Counterfeit?

WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based upon those images, it's no good.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agreed.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is it the soft strike or are you seeing something else?

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Give your reasons, Gentlemen.

    Peeps wanna know.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IDK. The whole thing looks wrong, including the color (although that could be the photo)

    The lettering looks thick (?) in the motto. The bust is washed out.

  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am no expert, but the first thing that looked off to me was the soft central strike, and then the porosity on both rims. Any chance you know the planchet weight?

    Sean Reynolds

    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My coin is only an AU, but Mr. Lincoln looks a bit ghostly on the OP piece.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Check for two faint die scratches leading downward from the left bar of the T in CENT on the reverse to help establish authenticity. These are two nearly vertical die-polishing lines that form a compressed letter X just left of the T in cent. These lines may be difficult to see on worn or cleaned coins. One die state does not show them at all.

    Some, but not all 1955 doubled die cents show a raised lump beneath the left wheat ear, just below the left side of the letter O in OF.

    The earliest state of this die also revealed several filing lines which appear raised on the coins. These are found just below the left wheat ear, but these lines disappeared from the die with subsequent repolishing.

  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First thing I noticed was the goofy T in TRUST.

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2021 1:44PM

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    Give your reasons, Gentlemen.

    Peeps wanna know.

    Pete

    Sometimes it is best not to say all to keep the counterfeiters from learning. According to my info there was only one die pair used to strike the 55/55 and I do not see the correct pup in the op's photos to be genuine.

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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Windycity said:
    Is it the soft strike or are you seeing something else?

    The soft central obverse details immediately set off alarm bells for me.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,693 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bad to the bone.

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 9, 2021 3:27PM

    Not good
    Compare amongst many other things in comparison the rotation of TY in LIBERTY compared to the real deal.

    Edited to add for clarity, the 55 DDO is counter clockwise rotation.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRocco said:
    Not good
    Compare amongst many other things in comparison the rotation of TY in LIBERTY compared to the real deal.

    Edited to add for clarity, the 55 DDO is counter clockwise rotation.

    That's what I was just looking at also but my eyes were playing tricks on me looking at it too long. Lol

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HaHa
    I had to look at it a few times myself.
    Imagine going through all the work to make that and screwing up something so basic ?

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • CoinCoinsCoinCoins Posts: 698 ✭✭✭

    Abe's eyes, lips & nose are doubled. They shouldn't be.

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭✭✭

    👎🏼

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  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,196 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What looks odd to me... the soft center portrait of Lincoln... but the lettering and date are thick and solid and well defined. They don't match with the soft portrait.

    ----- kj
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRocco said:
    Not good
    Compare amongst many other things in comparison the rotation of TY in LIBERTY compared to the real deal.

    Edited to add for clarity, the 55 DDO is counter clockwise rotation.

    Yessir.
    I couldn't see the forest for the trees.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinCoins said:
    Abe's eyes, lips & nose are doubled. They shouldn't be.

    Good catch.
    I find it's tougher to authenticate from a picture vs. examination in hand.
    I tend to get scattered and lose focus ( no pun intended) in pics, but when I have the coin in hand I zoom in right where I need to go.
    Much tougher to do with pics.
    I still rely heavily on my "gut", and then go from there when authenticating.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:
    Give your reasons, Gentlemen.

    Peeps wanna know.

    Pete

    Sometimes it is best not to say all to keep the counterfeiters from learning. According to my info there was only one die pair used to strike the 55/55 and I do not see the correct pup in the op's photos to be genuine.

    You're correct. We don't wanna teach the bad guys.

    Didn't think about that.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Correct,,, not genuine and weight is only 3 grams.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great thread.... and the coin is definitely fake. Cheers, RickO

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