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BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 6, 2021 5:43PM in U.S. Coin Forum

What is the proper term for the commonly used sewn cotton 2" x 2" protective sleeves used for raw storage in envelopes?

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 20,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just call them "2x2 cotton sleeves". However, I am not a member of EAC...

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Flannel pouches

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 6, 2021 7:43PM

    @Broadstruck said:
    What is the proper term for the commonly used sewn cotton 2" x 2" protective sleeves used for raw storage in envelopes?

    Anyone have photos?

    What is meant by "raw storage in envelopes?"

    Are paper envelopes put in the cotton sleeves, or are cotton sleeves put in the envelopes?

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “Cloth lined envelopes.” I have seen envelope with the soft liners built in.

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  • GoldenEggGoldenEgg Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They’ve always seemed home-made to me. I’m unsure who makes them or what they’re called!

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    the liners go into the envelopes.

    Good to know. I've actually received a number of tokens in these.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would keep an eye on what is happening to the coins stored in some of them, at least at first. Many years ago I got a batch of them that induced unattractive toning on silver coins.

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting touch. Serger type stitching is the expeditious way to keep fabric from fraying. My wife is a quilter, I showed this to her and she said "don't you have archival plastic baggies for that?". Ah yup. Peace Roy

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have not seen these cloth containers before... Learn something here every day. I will stick with the plastic flips and 2x2's for most raw coins. Cheers, RickO

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 9,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tightie Whites maybe?

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:
    They’ve always seemed home-made to me. I’m unsure who makes them or what they’re called!

    IIRC, years ago, one of the EAC member's wives made these and they were offered for sale at a very reasonable price. They were commonly used to store early coppers.

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  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just noticed this preview on Heritage where they refer to it as a "cotton-lined envelope".

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/half-cents/1829-c-1-b-1-r1-ms65-red-and-brown-ngc-cac-our-eac-grade-ms65-pcgs-35268-/p/1329-12140.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

    As noted above people have also called them “Cloth lined envelopes” and "2x2 cotton sleeves".

    I have only got them when buying something and never sought them out, so don't recall if there is an official term is or if anyone is still selling them.

    Some seem to be all cloth like the one posted above with the half dollar by Walkerguy21D.

    Most I have seen had an outer layer of paper. Wonder if that could be a factor in the "...induced unattractive toning on silver coins" noted by BillJones.

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  • JimWJimW Posts: 527 ✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:

    @GoldenEgg said:
    They’ve always seemed home-made to me. I’m unsure who makes them or what they’re called!

    IIRC, years ago, one of the EAC member's wives made these and they were offered for sale at a very reasonable price. They were commonly used to store early coppers.

    Yes, it was Tom Deck and he called them "Cotton Liners". You can still get them, email an inquiry: [email protected]

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 10,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 15, 2021 5:31PM

    @Zoins said:

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    the liners go into the envelopes.

    Good to know. I've actually received a number of tokens in these.

    I should clarify; this is the only non-copper coin I’ve seen stored in one. It was a whim purchase from an old school collector who was at a dealer friend’s table at FUN a few years back. I got the impression it had been in there many years with no ill effects, so I kept it that way.
    Raw coppers from the big EAC dealers almost always came with these liners.

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  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    Tightie Whites maybe?

    These pouches look more like boxers than briefs.

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