The Official 1921 Peace Dollar Thread. 1921-2021: A century of beauty
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Post your 1921 Peace Dollars. Everything from AG raw pieces to engraved pieces to those stellar uncirculated examples.
Let's have a year-long celebration of 100 years of one of the most interesting varieties of American numismatics!
VAM-1H: Business strike struck with the satin proof dies:
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I always have a tough time getting the grade right on this series. Weak strikes make it hard to be consistent in ciming up with a grade.
PCGS MS63 CAC. Vam. 1H.
Now resides in an PCGS 63 holder.
PCGS 62
VAM 3 PCGS 55
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PCGS MS64 CAC. Probably my favorite coin in my collection
MS62 great hair detail
MS62 vam1H CAC
MS62 vam 1F
AU58 VAM 1A CAC
Still need a vam3 if anyone has any leads.
Just got these grades yesterday from PCGS.
MS63
MS64
Great thread. I'll add photos when I get home from work (and away from the Internet firewall we have here.)
Possibly my favorite coin:
One that showed up on CRO's website, after John purchased it raw:
This one is in a PCGS XF40 holder:
AU55, My current favorite coin in my collection.
Some really pretty examples!
I hope those with lower grades will post, too. The Peace dollar was one of the new school coins of the early 20th century, along with the Buffalo, Walker, and even the Lincoln cent, whose design changes but doesn't really worsen with wear.
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NGC AU58 CAC. Vam 1-G.
Great thread!
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My favorite coin!
I have had dozens of these over the years but currently own none not even a raw slick which I have had a few of too. I have been looking for an attractive Vam 3 in an older holder for about 4 years now with no luck. There are some very attractive examples on here of an issue that isn't always that great looking. I have seen more than a few terminally toned examples.
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I’m picky. I’ve passed on several 63’s and even a 65 that didn’t seem to be all there, I really want a solid 64 or 65...
I did buy this raw example cheap.
I love the 21 peace dollars!
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Nice coins!
I have 3 of them, first a raw eBay purchase from when I first started collecting, with some hairlines in the right obv field; next an AU58; and last a raw one from the BST, from one 70/70 to my 70/70.
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Very cool, @BryceM. Exactly what I was hoping for. The beauty of this particular issue changes but remains as it wears and circulates!
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@kaz cool group of coins Doc
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I have a VAM 3 in PCGS 62. I cherrypicked it around 20 years ago.
Yah I was plucking them left and right in the early 2000s, from VFs all the way up to multiple 64s. And then overnight they dried up. I know they are out there and their hair is almost always week so they are semi out of vogue currently like most Peace VAMs. If you want to move your 62 I am but a reasonable PM away
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This one is dirtier than the photo's suggest. I kinda love it, it just sits in an air-tite capsule and I use it as a pocket piece.
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This one is from Mark Bogani and Tony Grat:
Is that one available, @Zoins ? a 2 ouncer?
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Yes and yes.
It looks quite amazing to me, especially the hair detail.
Love this thread - inspired me to make my first post. I recently succumbed to the 100th anniversary hype.
A vam 3 in 63.
In my OGH set.
I really like the 1921 Peace Dollar. Two or three years ago, I was searching for one.... Just never found the right combination of luster, detail, surface etc.. Then got distracted.... This thread may have reenergized me.... I know the 'one' is out there.... Cheers, RickO
This thread may have reenergized me.... I know the 'one' is out there.... Cheers, RickO
Same here, @ricko . Got me to thinking it's been some time since I last tried to re-image the "Ice Queen" above.
Here's my latest attempt, taking advantage of the bright day with snow on the ground:
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@Weiss....She is worthy of the term 'Ice Queen'.... a real beauty. Cheers, RickO
I have several, this is my first.
I see very few in rattler slabs, @Portross . That's a nice one!
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Here’s another, a darkly toned VAM-1H in an NGC holder marked Unc Details Cleaned. I liked the strike and the price was right.
A variety mix of them...
Quite pleased with my example (PCGS MS64)
Wow, @airplanenut. Not too many rainbow toned peace dollars out there. Can't be more than a few 1921s.
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I really like these!
It’s probably to late but these 2 ouncers would have made a serious set.
To buy it second time around will cost a bunch.
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I picked this one out of a pile of junk silver a couple of years ago! Yes, it has a bit of damage, but for under $20, I could not pass it up! Looks great in my album and Im currently trying to find lightly circulated coins to match!
LOVE It, @erwindoc ! That's exactly the kind of stuff I wanted to see. I bet more 1921 peace dollars were pocket piece'd, holed, engraved, etc. than any other in the series.
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@Goldbully 's post about an NGC 64 '21 Peace selling for strong money seems to echo the sentiment that this is a break-out year for the 1921 Peace dollar. It stands to reason as it's the 100th anniversary with the possibility of a commem making its way to us later in the year.
I can't help but wonder if there might be something more to it. So I just checked the pops for our hosts and ATS.
The numbers look like this:
PCGS: 21,231
NGC: 16,675
Total: 37,906
That's across all grades, and obviously includes resubmissions, which I feel are probably higher than most issues.
In other words, there are only about 38,000 graded 1921 Peace dollars available for all of the collectors in the world, across all grades. And that number could be significantly lower due to resubmissions. Now if you look at only MS examples, the numbers drops by 10,000 to about 25,000 examples.
Compare that to two other "rarities" of the same era:
1916-D Mercury Dime
PCGS: 9328
NGC: 5231
Total: 14,559
1914-D Lincoln Cent
PCGS: 9863
NGC: 5838
Total: 15,701
The raw numbers suggest the 1921 Peace isn't quite on the same level of scarcity as the 1916-D or the 1914-D, with roughly twice as many examples out there.
Still, with a maximum of 38,000 graded examples, of which only 25,000 are MS graded examples, and both figures likely skewed higher by significant resubmissions, I believe the 1921 Peace is actually quite scarce.
Agree or disagree?
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Interesting presentation, @Weiss - thank you.
Another interesting analytic:
NGC graded pop 16,675, details pop 16,497
ANACS graded pop 5,950, details pop 5,733
I cannot find this data in the PCGS pop report.
So, about equal number of graded vs details for the 1921 Pease Dollar at two services. And, this 50:50 does not apply to other date/MM issues within the series, where graded typically exceeds details by a handy margin. These data suggest that the 1921 Peace dollar a) has a relative high prevalence of cleaning, graffiti, etc, and/or b) is submitted more commonly despite pre-submission awareness of details for various reasons.
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Excellent analysis, @SPalladino . I've seen so many details graded 1921 Peace dollars that I don't doubt these figures at all.
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Interesting comments about scarcity. I’ll just go out on a limb and say there are many, many MS 1921 coins that have never been to a grading service. Almost every B&M has a handful in flips and a few of these are actually pretty nice coins. There are also many others still running around in the wild. I think they’re still “out there” in a way that 16-D and 14-Ds are not.
Above MS64 or so the story is probably different.
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