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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course, but for whatever reason these two 10c examples strike me as attractive for more feminine younger women, whereas the Barber and Morgan designs are a little more masculine, mature specimens


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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2021 7:30PM

    From Wikipedia

    Libertas, along with other Roman goddesses, has served as the inspiration for many modern-day personifications, including the Statue of Liberty on Liberty Island in the United States. According to the National Park Service, the Statue's Roman robe is the main feature that invokes Libertas and the symbol of Liberty from which the statue derives its name.[9]

    In addition, money throughout history has borne the name or image of Libertas. As "Liberty", Libertas was depicted on the obverse (heads side) of most coinage in the U.S. into the twentieth century – and the image is still used for the American Gold Eagle gold bullion coin.
    The ancient Roman goddess Libertas was honored during the second Punic War (218 to 201 BC) by a temple erected on the Aventine Hill in Rome by the father of Tiberius Gracchus. In a highly political gesture, a temple for her was raised in 58 BC by Publius Clodius Pulcher on the site of Marcus Tullius Cicero's house after it had been razed. When depicted as a standing figure, on the reverse of coins, she usually holds out, but never wears, a pileus, the soft cap that symbolised the granting of freedom to former slaves. She also carries a rod, which formed part of the ceremony for manumission. In the 18th century, due to antiquarians misunderstanding the shape, the pileus turned into the similar Phrygian cap carried on a pole by English-speaking "Liberty" figures, and then worn by Marianne and other 19th-century personifications, as the "cap of liberty".

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2021 7:55PM


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mythologymatters.wordpress.com/2015/07/02/independence-day-mythology-our-goddess-liberty/amp/
    In the early portrayals, she was a portly, matronly figure depicted in the abundant nature of America, which reflected the European fascination with the exotic New World. As tensions between Great Britain and her American colonies grew, in North America the Queen morphed into the younger, thinner, Indian Princess, who sported a feathered headdress and skirt, whose complexion was lighter, and who took on a martial profile as both representation and protector of the colonists against the King and his own female protector, Britannia

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  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, Wikipedia
    The Greek word "ἐλευθερία" (capitalized Ἐλευθερία; Attic Greek pronunciation: [eleu̯tʰeˈria]), transliterated as eleutheria, is an Ancient Greek term for, and personification of, liberty. Eleutheria personified had a brief career on coins of Alexandria.

    Artemis Eleutheria, from a coin minted in Myra of Lycia in honour of Empress Tranquillina.
    In Ancient Greece, Eleutheria was also an epithet for the goddess Artemis, and as such she was worshipped in Myra of Lycia. The Roman equivalent of the goddess Eleutheria is Libertas, a goddess in her own right, and a personification of liberty.

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  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is this one any better?

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tastes change.

    Here we have a second-century Roman marble copy of a Greek statue of Aphrodite, the goddess of beauty, crouching naked at her bath.

    Pay no attention to the naked dudes in the background.
    Lance.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why is lady liberty so ugly?

    Maybe because the most talented sculptors didn't work for the US Mint? Everyone here seems to want to blame the models...

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    Is this one any better?

    That one is slightly better because I like Filipina women but the design isn’t the best mainly because the face is awkward

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lady Liberty - one minute ago

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i doubt she was suppose to be pretty, back then when these coins were made life was rough, tough and people cared little of how the coins looked as long as they could be used for whatever they wanted or needed

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Panda4456 said:

    @U1chicago said:
    Is this one any better?

    That one is slightly better because I like Filipina women but the design isn’t the best mainly because the face is awkward

    I’ll consider it a win since it doesn’t look like a man in a dress to you!

  • RGRG Posts: 74 ✭✭

    The $10 Indian sorta looks like Tom Cruise playing Geronimo.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This beauty is just described as lady in the clouds by the French medalist Daniel Dupuis

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"

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