Is this coin whizzed?
davewesen
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It looks exceptionally nice, but weakness on shield and shadows around letters me me wonder....
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Your photo is slightly out of focus on my screen so I cannot tell for sure, I don't see any pile up of material around the devices but the surfaces do seem to have flat sheen to them.
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Whatever the issue, the coin doesn't look remotely original to me. Can you post a reverse image?
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yes look for luster halos around the devices and the grainy texture on the surfaces
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It looks off, I would avoid it.
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Something has been done to it. What, I don't know. It's too clean. Doesn't look natural.
yes -pics are not mine it is in an auction, so just these 2 shots
It looks cleaned or otherwise messed with. It may have been cracked out of a details graded slab. Pass.
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i'm usually pretty good with these and it does kind of have that look but usually there is some metal pushed up around the devices which i don't see on this coin obv or rev.
if it is just simply dipped-out with minimal luster, there is a market for it.
those pls can be masters at hiding in images and sometimes even in-hand.
best i can offer for my part is it is a 50/50.
the fields are remarkably free of marks
At least the reverse is consistent with the obverse
It looks cleaned or worse.
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It does not look right. My initial thought from the obverse only was that is was a counterfeit. The fields look wrong.
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It is either whizzed or smoothed (and keep in mind whizzing counts as smoothing).
It does?
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I would catalog it as "Superb Gem Uncirculated Whizzed".
This is exactly what I was going to say.
I had this thought, too. Between the photo and some terrible surface damage I'm not set on saying it's counterfeit, but at least in the photos it certainly has almost a non-silver look to it. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a result of the damaged surfaces combined with how the photo was taken.
If retoned their would probably be far less complaints. At the very least it would be far more saleable. JMO
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I am not sure about the counterfeit. It would have to be transfer dies as the reverse has the mottled look on the right edge from rusted dies found then. I guess it could be photoshopped very well ?
Definitely whizzed if genuine.
Is there a raised dot below the 1 (in the date)? If so, that would be troublesome.
I considered counterfeit, as well. But all I can say for certain is that one way or another, it’s a coin I’d strongly avoid.
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The surface certainly has been treated in some manner.... The picture is blurry, so the poor focus does not allow for a conclusion - which may not be possible with a clear picture either. Cheers, RickO
My experience says that a whizzed coin is shiny and not dull.
And a whizzed coin, IMO, has no junk piled up in the crevices. It is as clean as if it were new!
do you have the weight?
and, WHO is the seller?
for this coin I say, without coin in hand, it is either one of these:
Fake
heavily dipped
purposely left in some cleaning agent for some time.
i think it looks fake.
It looks whizzed. Just by what you said.
Buildup around the devices is a sure givaway.
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From the photo, it looks like the surfaces have been smoothed with something. The surfaces have a very unnatural look. Here's one that has been graded MS-64.
It sure looks that way to me.
The surfaces look smoothed, but I would not be surprised if it is only the photos that are smoothed.
Yes, I believe it is "whizzed" completely.
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Sure is!
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Looks like Dan Carr made it yesterday. As others stated. To be avoided.
dcarr wouldn't strike it in aluminum!
Whizzed then shot slightly out of focus.
This is my whizzed coin.
Possibly whizzed.
Possibly scoured with baking soda.
Definitely not original.