@Downtown1974 said:
I rank thieves right up there with pedophiles. Scums of the earth.
Can we have a little perspective here? I would much rather someone stole everything I own than lay a hand on my child.
Perspective?
Well....scums of the earth is a blanket term I classify thieves, or pedophiles, or rapists just to name a few. It’s not a scientific theory, just my own opinion. And while I agree there may be degrees of scum baggery, for instance...the pedophile that lays a hand on your child would be at the top of the pyramid. As far as stealing from someone....I think they are scum wether they steal a gold Saint or a coffee mug.
I worked at a precious metals mint, and when packages were sent or received, they were sealed or opened under a time-stamped camera to prove that the items ordered were shipped, or that the items sent to us were actually in the box. Amazing how many people would say they didn't receive the bullion they ordered until you mentioned that the packaging was recorded on camera. "Never mind, I think I found it." It saved a lot of headaches after one guy said he didn't get some gold. With digital recordings, it is easy and cheap now.
I always wonder how postal thieves would identify a package as a good theft target and actually find a way to try to get away with it. Chronic thieves create a major series of headaches and suffering with those they steal from. In a large retail DIY company I work for part time they have a major theft problem and it seems that they only turn it over to law enforcement when they have a theft ring that tries to sell their stuff online. Management makes the argument that calling the police on thieves would be bad for business; I seriously doubt that logic. If a thief were caught up front and led out in handcuffs by police it would be good for business because the vast majority of customers believe in honest business dealings and could not imagine stealing as thieves do, many of which have drug addictions. Some say we need to try to "understand" thieves and have a listening session to find where they are coming from. It is clear that they don't believe in a fundamental rule of a civilized society that you respect other people's property.
Always sorry to hear of people's losses.... Theft of property is painful to people, a personal violation. In my business career, one of my responsibilities was security. We took theft seriously, even of small items - such as people's lunches stolen from the provided refrigerators. Yes, it happens... and I caught a couple... One was a Personnel Department employee...had her walking down the street -unemployed - the same day. Iron clad proof and gone. Zero tolerance. I have other examples as well. Cheers, RickO
Date: 01/18/2021
Offense: Mail Theft
Location of offense: UTAH to NEW JERSEY
Investigating Agency: USPS
COINS HAVE BEEN LOCATED..............
Details:
A USPS Express mail package being shipped from UTAH to NJ arrived with the
contents missing.
The package contained the following coins:
1856 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 11581761
1858 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU58 08706170
1859 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 14654576
1860 S Gold one dollar NGC AU58 272189-001
1881 Gold dollar NGC MS64 272189-002
1910 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS 64 83233724
1927 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS64 5395712
1879 $3 PCGS MS64 07796685
1910 $5 PCGS MS64 35411547
1911 S $5 PCGS MS62 06778956
1912 $5 NGC MS64 1931094-009
Anyone with information contact:
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Date: 01/18/2021
Offense: Mail Theft
Location of offense: UTAH to NEW JERSEY
Investigating Agency: USPS
COINS HAVE BEEN LOCATED..............
Details:
A USPS Express mail package being shipped from UTAH to NJ arrived with the
contents missing.
The package contained the following coins:
1856 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 11581761
1858 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU58 08706170
1859 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 14654576
1860 S Gold one dollar NGC AU58 272189-001
1881 Gold dollar NGC MS64 272189-002
1910 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS 64 83233724
1927 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS64 5395712
1879 $3 PCGS MS64 07796685
1910 $5 PCGS MS64 35411547
1911 S $5 PCGS MS62 06778956
1912 $5 NGC MS64 1931094-009
Anyone with information contact:
odd thing is i ship first class retail mail and never had a issue but crooks aren't after those they want the insured packages and labels so they know what is inside
@silverpop said: odd thing is i ship first class retail mail and never had a issue but crooks aren't after those they want the insured packages and labels so they know what is inside
glad this turned out good
while first class mail may not be 'targeted' unless it has a high postage, shows 'insured' or requires a signature, it sure gets easily lost.
@silverpop said: odd thing is i ship first class retail mail and never had a issue but crooks aren't after those they want the insured packages and labels so they know what is inside
glad this turned out good
I agree, small packages with high label costs sure point to massive insurance.
I hope that they all were found and made their final destination in good shape
But, As Paul Harvey said:
“AND NOW THE REST OF THE STORY”
Please keep us informed
Comments
No, as I said before, just quoting scripture. But I’ll be the first to say that I’m a very imperfect human being.
Perspective?
Well....scums of the earth is a blanket term I classify thieves, or pedophiles, or rapists just to name a few. It’s not a scientific theory, just my own opinion. And while I agree there may be degrees of scum baggery, for instance...the pedophile that lays a hand on your child would be at the top of the pyramid. As far as stealing from someone....I think they are scum wether they steal a gold Saint or a coffee mug.
MY GOLD TYPE SET https://pcgs.com/setregistry/type-sets/complete-type-sets/gold-type-set-12-piece-circulation-strikes-1839-1933/publishedset/321940
I worked at a precious metals mint, and when packages were sent or received, they were sealed or opened under a time-stamped camera to prove that the items ordered were shipped, or that the items sent to us were actually in the box. Amazing how many people would say they didn't receive the bullion they ordered until you mentioned that the packaging was recorded on camera. "Never mind, I think I found it." It saved a lot of headaches after one guy said he didn't get some gold. With digital recordings, it is easy and cheap now.
I always wonder how postal thieves would identify a package as a good theft target and actually find a way to try to get away with it. Chronic thieves create a major series of headaches and suffering with those they steal from. In a large retail DIY company I work for part time they have a major theft problem and it seems that they only turn it over to law enforcement when they have a theft ring that tries to sell their stuff online. Management makes the argument that calling the police on thieves would be bad for business; I seriously doubt that logic. If a thief were caught up front and led out in handcuffs by police it would be good for business because the vast majority of customers believe in honest business dealings and could not imagine stealing as thieves do, many of which have drug addictions. Some say we need to try to "understand" thieves and have a listening session to find where they are coming from. It is clear that they don't believe in a fundamental rule of a civilized society that you respect other people's property.
Always sorry to hear of people's losses.... Theft of property is painful to people, a personal violation. In my business career, one of my responsibilities was security. We took theft seriously, even of small items - such as people's lunches stolen from the provided refrigerators. Yes, it happens... and I caught a couple... One was a Personnel Department employee...had her walking down the street -unemployed - the same day. Iron clad proof and gone. Zero tolerance. I have other examples as well. Cheers, RickO
Update--coins found!
Date: 01/18/2021
Offense: Mail Theft
Location of offense: UTAH to NEW JERSEY
Investigating Agency: USPS
COINS HAVE BEEN LOCATED..............
Details:
A USPS Express mail package being shipped from UTAH to NJ arrived with the
contents missing.
The package contained the following coins:
1856 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 11581761
1858 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU58 08706170
1859 S Gold one dollar PCGS AU50 14654576
1860 S Gold one dollar NGC AU58 272189-001
1881 Gold dollar NGC MS64 272189-002
1910 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS 64 83233724
1927 $21/2 dollar PCGS MS64 5395712
1879 $3 PCGS MS64 07796685
1910 $5 PCGS MS64 35411547
1911 S $5 PCGS MS62 06778956
1912 $5 NGC MS64 1931094-009
Anyone with information contact:
Doug Davis
817-723-7231
Doug@numismaticcrimes.org
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Well that's one form of a happy ending. Glad to see all that Gold was found.
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Coins come first, but did they find the thief?
Doug is a member here, maybe he can fill us in with the details he is comfortable releasing.
Capital investment depends on confidence. - Martin Armstrong
Awaiting "the rest of the story."
I wanna know how this all happened.
Pete
odd thing is i ship first class retail mail and never had a issue but crooks aren't after those they want the insured packages and labels so they know what is inside
glad this turned out good
https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipODuI77KJBKNvdu5bqTWlUAauiPgSltmcNUIC6i
So all is OK you found the coins? If so you are lucky please buy private insurance and use FedEx or UPS with such orders.
while first class mail may not be 'targeted' unless it has a high postage, shows 'insured' or requires a signature, it sure gets easily lost.
Capital investment depends on confidence. - Martin Armstrong
I agree, small packages with high label costs sure point to massive insurance.
Great news.... I hope we get the backstory on this case....Cheers, RickO
Happy that the coins were found
I hope that they all were found and made their final destination in good shape
But, As Paul Harvey said:
“AND NOW THE REST OF THE STORY”
Please keep us informed
Kennedys are my quest...
Mr. Davis said the Postal inspectors are working the case and all they could say is that they had been located.
Thanks for the added update.
It will be interesting to learn whether the items had made it out of the postal facility as opposed to being stashed for later removal.