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  • 19591959 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭

    Dito what JoeBanai said....errrr wrote.

  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    I never thought I’d be saying this, but I hope formerly high volume submitters like 4SC go back to having sweetheart deals even if the rest of us don’t. In the last several months graded vintage commons have really dried up. I had gotten very used to 4SC pumping out newly graded vintage commons weekly to cherry pick from. I miss that.

    They should've never had sweetheart deals. It never made any sense. Tons of customers and they had the mother of all deals and also seemed to get a more than fair shake on the grades. I believe all of these deals ended up adding to where they are now.

    "Sweetheart" deals are a part of business. If you ran a company and I came in and guaranteed you a nice steady stream of work, you would reciprocate.

    Businesses like a steady revenue stream.

    The price drop has happened, hopefully very few people will be taking advantage of the "savings".

    Regular customers were giving them steady revenue....even backing them up. Didn't need sweetheart deals when you have tons of customers.

    Businesses don't think that way. They like guaranteed orders. Simple fact of life, sucks for the little guy...............as usual.

    I'm bummed about the prices right now and might never submit again unless there's a "special".

    Most of the stuff I want to send in isn't for resale and low dollar items for my registry set. I am not going to spend that kind of money trying to compete.

    I was able to enjoy collecting before grading, I can enjoy it without spending hundreds of dollars per item to get them holdered.

    Hopefully people will hold off submitting for a while and more service levels will open up.

    I don't disagree with everything; but I have heard and it seems to have been confirmed by many that they got a deal that was just ridiculous. It sounds like they may have even had a deal that allowed tons of cards and only grade them if they reached certain grades....almost like pregrades. And charged such a low price that it was a win win every single time. Just didn't think it was fair. Life goes on.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mickey71 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    I never thought I’d be saying this, but I hope formerly high volume submitters like 4SC go back to having sweetheart deals even if the rest of us don’t. In the last several months graded vintage commons have really dried up. I had gotten very used to 4SC pumping out newly graded vintage commons weekly to cherry pick from. I miss that.

    They should've never had sweetheart deals. It never made any sense. Tons of customers and they had the mother of all deals and also seemed to get a more than fair shake on the grades. I believe all of these deals ended up adding to where they are now.

    "Sweetheart" deals are a part of business. If you ran a company and I came in and guaranteed you a nice steady stream of work, you would reciprocate.

    Businesses like a steady revenue stream.

    The price drop has happened, hopefully very few people will be taking advantage of the "savings".

    Regular customers were giving them steady revenue....even backing them up. Didn't need sweetheart deals when you have tons of customers.

    Businesses don't think that way. They like guaranteed orders. Simple fact of life, sucks for the little guy...............as usual.

    I'm bummed about the prices right now and might never submit again unless there's a "special".

    Most of the stuff I want to send in isn't for resale and low dollar items for my registry set. I am not going to spend that kind of money trying to compete.

    I was able to enjoy collecting before grading, I can enjoy it without spending hundreds of dollars per item to get them holdered.

    Hopefully people will hold off submitting for a while and more service levels will open up.

    I don't disagree with everything; but I have heard and it seems to have been confirmed by many that they got a deal that was just ridiculous. It sounds like they may have even had a deal that allowed tons of cards and only grade them if they reached certain grades....almost like pregrades. And charged such a low price that it was a win win every single time. Just didn't think it was fair. Life goes on.

    It's not fair. I agree with that 100%

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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    @PaulMaul said:
    I never thought I’d be saying this, but I hope formerly high volume submitters like 4SC go back to having sweetheart deals even if the rest of us don’t. In the last several months graded vintage commons have really dried up. I had gotten very used to 4SC pumping out newly graded vintage commons weekly to cherry pick from. I miss that.

    They should've never had sweetheart deals. It never made any sense. Tons of customers and they had the mother of all deals and also seemed to get a more than fair shake on the grades. I believe all of these deals ended up adding to where they are now.

    "Sweetheart" deals are a part of business. If you ran a company and I came in and guaranteed you a nice steady stream of work, you would reciprocate.

    Businesses like a steady revenue stream.

    The price drop has happened, hopefully very few people will be taking advantage of the "savings".

    Regular customers were giving them steady revenue....even backing them up. Didn't need sweetheart deals when you have tons of customers.

    Businesses don't think that way. They like guaranteed orders. Simple fact of life, sucks for the little guy...............as usual.

    I'm bummed about the prices right now and might never submit again unless there's a "special".

    Most of the stuff I want to send in isn't for resale and low dollar items for my registry set. I am not going to spend that kind of money trying to compete.

    I was able to enjoy collecting before grading, I can enjoy it without spending hundreds of dollars per item to get them holdered.

    Hopefully people will hold off submitting for a while and more service levels will open up.

    I don't disagree with everything; but I have heard and it seems to have been confirmed by many that they got a deal that was just ridiculous. It sounds like they may have even had a deal that allowed tons of cards and only grade them if they reached certain grades....almost like pregrades. And charged such a low price that it was a win win every single time. Just didn't think it was fair. Life goes on.

    It's not fair. I agree with that 100%

    Thank you. I took us this long to finally agree on something. LOL

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mickey71 said:

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    Thank you. I took us this long to finally agree on something. LOL

    I think we agree in principle on a lot of things, the problem comes into play when money becomes involved.

    My wife is sort of interested in my babbling on about card grading. Her opinion is all cards should cost the same to grade.
    Why does it cost more to do the same thing to a Mickey Mantle card as a Mario Mendoza?

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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    >

    Thank you. I took us this long to finally agree on something. LOL

    I think we agree in principle on a lot of things, the problem comes into play when money becomes involved.

    My wife is sort of interested in my babbling on about card grading. Her opinion is all cards should cost the same to grade.
    Why does it cost more to do the same thing to a Mickey Mantle card as a Mario Mendoza?

    I agree with your wife.

  • 1951WheatiesPremium1951WheatiesPremium Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    >

    Thank you. I took us this long to finally agree on something. LOL

    I think we agree in principle on a lot of things, the problem comes into play when money becomes involved.

    My wife is sort of interested in my babbling on about card grading. Her opinion is all cards should cost the same to grade.
    Why does it cost more to do the same thing to a Mickey Mantle card as a Mario Mendoza?

    Because I have never heard of a lawsuit involving a Mario Mendoza card. And because a Mario Mendoza card is not worth a life altering sum of money.

    Money!
    Get away!
    Get a good job with more pay and you’re ok.

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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,885 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2021 8:04PM

    @1951WheatiesPremium said:

    @JoeBanzai said:

    @Mickey71 said:

    >

    Thank you. I took us this long to finally agree on something. LOL

    I think we agree in principle on a lot of things, the problem comes into play when money becomes involved.

    My wife is sort of interested in my babbling on about card grading. Her opinion is all cards should cost the same to grade.
    Why does it cost more to do the same thing to a Mickey Mantle card as a Mario Mendoza?

    Because I have never heard of a lawsuit involving a Mario Mendoza card. And because a Mario Mendoza card is not worth a life altering sum of money.

    Money!
    Get away!
    Get a good job with more pay and you’re ok.

    Good song.

    The question still remains. It's no more work to grade a Mickey Mantle than a Mario Mendoza.

    _For the love of money is the root of all of evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. _

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