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My Coolest Struck Thru Error Coin Yet

ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I love interesting major struck thru error coins and my latest one is really cool ...

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 1:02PM

    Great looking error! That's very well positioned.

    What is it struck through? Looks like a contact lens!

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  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 1:02PM

    Looks like it’s struck through a dime planchet.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EXOJUNKIE said:
    Looks like it’s struck through a dime planchet.

    Interesting. I would have assumed a dime planchet would be much stronger and not leave behind so much of an impression on the quarter.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll bet you have the dime too. :D

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EXOJUNKIE said:
    Looks like it’s struck through a dime planchet.

    Judging by the size I was going to say a cent planchet. Too bad it isn't retained.

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  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd call it interesting.
    Clearly the chances of a dime planchet getting into the quarter production process is extremely low.
    Occam's razor would suggest this is a "creation of a mint employee for profit".

    Still cool though.

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  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 4:59PM

    @Cameonut said:
    I'd call it interesting.
    Clearly the chances of a dime planchet getting into the quarter production process is extremely low.
    Occam's razor would suggest this is a "creation of a mint employee for profit".

    Still cool though.

    I would argue exactly the opposite. Much more likely for it to have happened through normal production processes.

    This type of strike through isn’t actually all that rare, and occurrences span years and Mints.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GoldenEgg said:

    @Cameonut said:
    I'd call it interesting.
    Clearly the chances of a dime planchet getting into the quarter production process is extremely low.
    Occam's razor would suggest this is a "creation of a mint employee for profit".

    Still cool though.

    I would argue exactly the opposite. Much more likely for it to have happened through normal production processes.

    This type of strike through isn’t actually all that rare, and occurrences span years and Mints.

    OK, I understand your position. I disagree.
    This is one reason why I do not invest big money in errors that might not have been created at random.
    But hey, you can collect what you want.
    Carry on.

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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said: > It could be out there tho.

    Are you going to keep it for a while and look around for the dime?

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭✭✭

    amazing how so much of Washington head transferred through the dime and with the extra pressure the motto and date did not get filled.

  • EXOJUNKIEEXOJUNKIE Posts: 1,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 17, 2021 6:00PM

    I would argue exactly the opposite. Much more likely for it to have happened through normal production processes.

    This type of strike through isn’t actually all that rare, and occurrences span years and Mints.

    It is not very common to encounter a 100% indent through a smaller planchet, but yes, occurrences indeed span years, mints, and denominations. I’ve owned a few over the years and have seen examples on all but a dime and cent.

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO. I also used to own a BU, PCGS-graded bicentennial quarter 100% indented by a dime but I can’t find a photo.

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've got plenty of dimes! How many ya want :D

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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is pretty dang kewl!


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @EXOJUNKIE said:

    I would argue exactly the opposite. Much more likely for it to have happened through normal production processes.

    This type of strike through isn’t actually all that rare, and occurrences span years and Mints.

    It is not very common to encounter a 100% indent through a smaller planchet, but yes, occurrences indeed span years, mints, and denominations. I’ve owned a few over the years and have seen examples on all but a dime and cent.

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO. I also used to own a BU, PCGS-graded bicentennial quarter 100% indented by a dime but I can’t find a photo.

    This look is more what I expect from a dime planchet.

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  • thisistheshowthisistheshow Posts: 9,386 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins I love your posts like this, and perusing your site.

  • EfnickEfnick Posts: 44 ✭✭

    That ones fun to look at!

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a lot of detail in the indented area on the quarter. It may have been struck through a 10c clad layer rather than a full-thickness 10c planchet. The depth of the indent would give some idea of which. The semantics don't matter a whole lot in this case. It's pretty neat no matter what name it gets.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,564 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like. I wonder how long the dime is gonna take to show up?

  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭

    I'm thinking it was not struck thru a dime planchet, but rather a dime clad layer. Makes it cooler.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The impression made is going to be slightly larger than the coin itself would be. Dime planchet squished out farther than normal because no collar to stop extent of metal spread at instant of striking.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2021 1:18AM

    I have a 1916 nickel that has a strike through on the obverse.It's a good size of lamination flake that the nickel planchet used was struck thru I believe.I am by no means an expert on mint errors.A dealer who looked at it at a show,identified it for what it is,told me "neat error" and that my coin is worth about $30.Translation: my coin is worth more like $50-$60.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Real nice error!

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will give anybody 15 bucks for the dime that matches up with my coin.

    the definition of cheap.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    There's a lot of detail in the indented area on the quarter. It may have been struck through a 10c clad layer rather than a full-thickness 10c planchet. The depth of the indent would give some idea of which. The semantics don't matter a whole lot in this case. It's pretty neat no matter what name it gets.

    My thoughts exactly.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jonathanb said:
    There's a lot of detail in the indented area on the quarter. It may have been struck through a 10c clad layer rather than a full-thickness 10c planchet. The depth of the indent would give some idea of which. The semantics don't matter a whole lot in this case. It's pretty neat no matter what name it gets.

    Agree it doesn't look like a full-thickness dime planchet. Might be worth trying with a press to see the result.

    Semantics doesn't matter from a coolness perspective, but if I know @ErrorsOnCoins, he likes to have his errors properly identified :)

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I assume there is no actual dime out there to match. Based on the impression it was unstruck, and once the planchet was smashed here I expect it to be oversized and I doubt it would have made it through the dime striking process, not that it would have found its way back there anyway.

    I assume a dime planchet with George W on it either washed out of the post strike processing routine, or made it into the bag with the quarters.

    So, what we are on the lookout for is a weird looking dime planchet (or layer) with a clearly struck portrait on one side and a fuzzy portrait in reverse (as it would be viewed) on the back.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Neat error.

    Is the quarter double struck?

    If a quarter planchet is in the coining chamber and a dime planchet falls in as well, the impression from the die will be on the dime and "exposed" area of the quarter. This example clearly has design elements "under" the dime. In my simple view of the minting process, the OP's error coin does not seem possible unless the quarter was struck previously and not ejected from the coining chamber before a second strike (with the dime planchet in place).

    Or ... it's not struck through a dime, but something like a detached clad layer from a dime planchet (or dime).

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2021 11:50AM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @EXOJUNKIE said:
    Looks like it’s struck through a dime planchet.

    Bingo.

    Why do you think this is struck through a dime planchet?

    You have these two that have a similar look which you call "struck thru Clad Layer".

    • 1980 NGC MS62 Struck Thru Partial Clad Layer Kennedy Half Dollar Mint Error Rare
    • 1969 D NGC AU58 40% Struck thru Clad Layer Dime Mint Error Graet Eye Appeal

    1980 NGC MS62 Struck Thru Partial Clad Layer Kennedy Half Dollar Mint Error Rare

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    1969 D NGC AU58 40% Struck thru Clad Layer Dime Mint Error Graet Eye Appeal

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zions, very well could be struck thru a dime shaped clad layer.

    A full dime planchet indent probably would not transfer the design that well.

    An interesting coin for sure.

    ATS sometimes does not get the error description quite right.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO.

    Could it be on a foreign coin planchet which isn't for a dime?

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO.

    Could it be on a foreign coin planchet which isn't for a dime?

    Logic and odds say no.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2021 12:34PM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO.

    Could it be on a foreign coin planchet which isn't for a dime?

    Logic and odds say no.

    If it's a full planchet, I don't think the odds are zero.

    If it's a partial clad layer, it may be that the US coins were the only clad ones in 1965.

    I don't believe it's a full planchet, so it would be interesting to know if the US coins were the only clad coins struck by the US Mint in 1965.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO.

    Could it be on a foreign coin planchet which isn't for a dime?

    Logic and odds say no.

    I don't believe it's a full planchet, so it would be interesting to know if the US coins were the only clad coins struck by the US Mint in 1965.

    You seem to love doing research, have at it :)

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,353 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2021 12:59PM

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    Here’s one I used to own on a Jefferson nickel ... not sure why ATS said “round object” as it’s clearly a dime planchet IMHO.

    Could it be on a foreign coin planchet which isn't for a dime?

    Logic and odds say no.

    I don't believe it's a full planchet, so it would be interesting to know if the US coins were the only clad coins struck by the US Mint in 1965.

    You seem to love doing research, have at it :)

    The great thing about our forums is we have members that specialize in US Mint struck foreign coins :)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a very cool error. Though I do not collect errors (only have a blank cent planchet, found in change), I really like looking at them here and understanding the details on how they 'came to be'. Cheers, RickO

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zions, Mike from Mint Error News just sent me this list of foreign coins struck at the US Mint to post to this thread.

    Here is the link:

    https://minterrornews.com/foreign_coinage_production_figures.pdf

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