Since it is raw I would grade it MS60. Higher grades for zinc Lincolns only exist when in major TPG plastic. Only the TPG graders opinions can bless them with high grades.
@TurtleCat said:
If it’s one thing I’ve seen with PCGS it is that they are very hard on the zincs. I’ll go MS66 on this one.
I couldn't agree with you more and I have lots of proof. The 22 coin order I'm currently waiting on only has 7 Zincs THIS time. Would have been less but two are varieties and the others well, I hope curiosity doesn't kill the cat.
05 - 09 are a whole nother animal and based on the impossible to focus cell phone pic. Anywhere between 66 & 68.
Most likely 67.
There are certain years where the portraits of Lincoln, Kennedy and even Washington take on what can be described as cartoonish. I know... commenting on craftsmanship was not included in the question but it clearly is an observation worth making in comparing and contrasting the 2005 coin which is the subject of this thread and one from 80 years earlier.
Okay... as for the grade, 66+ or 67 would not be unreasonable
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
.....where are the contact marks? Looking at the full coin image on a phone is about the 5x magnification graders use. I’ve read the Sheldon scale ........and nicks and contact marks, by quantity allowed, are specified for grade number. I can certainly print out the criterion of the grading scale, but point being certain defects visible at 5x determine the grade. •••••. There’s no “winner” or “loser” here, but sometimes I just have to laugh a bit with posts like the MS64 guess, or the theory of the MS60 excuse/thing. •••••. All in all, I am totally surprised NO ONE realized this is a Satin Finish 2005 Mint Set coin, freshly removed from the set, and untouched by human hands (except for just now). its not a business strike, with a mintage of 1.3 million, and should carry an SP grade prefix. It has a satin surface, and mirror rims. Having owned a 2006 Satin Finish MS70RD, the differences here are one of a slight lack of reverse field flatness. I’d grade it SP68,
Dude, you can't really form a pinion on a photo like that, much less grade a coin. Looks like marks above the date but you can't tell because the pic is unfocused. How the hell would anyone possibly know its satin if you can't even define the surface. Spotty on the reverse SP67
I see some 'marks' on the T of cent on the reverse, and around the base of the T.... If that is on the coin, then I do not think it will garner a 68. Cheers, RickO
ambro51
Posts: 13,529 ✭✭✭✭✭
Comments
If it’s one thing I’ve seen with PCGS it is that they are very hard on the zincs. I’ll go MS66 on this one.
TurtleCat Gold Dollars
I'll say MS64
Kennedys are my quest...
I'll take the middle road and say ms65
I'm not seeing a gem
MS65 shot 66
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
Since it is raw I would grade it MS60. Higher grades for zinc Lincolns only exist when in major TPG plastic. Only the TPG graders opinions can bless them with high grades.
.
I couldn't agree with you more and I have lots of proof. The 22 coin order I'm currently waiting on only has 7 Zincs THIS time. Would have been less but two are varieties and the others well, I hope curiosity doesn't kill the cat.
05 - 09 are a whole nother animal and based on the impossible to focus cell phone pic. Anywhere between 66 & 68.
Most likely 67.
There are certain years where the portraits of Lincoln, Kennedy and even Washington take on what can be described as cartoonish. I know... commenting on craftsmanship was not included in the question but it clearly is an observation worth making in comparing and contrasting the 2005 coin which is the subject of this thread and one from 80 years earlier.
Okay... as for the grade, 66+ or 67 would not be unreasonable
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Me no no, is that a scuff on the T in CENT? Peace Roy
BST: endeavor1967, synchr, kliao, Outhaul, Donttellthewife, U1Chicago, ajaan, mCarney1173, SurfinHi, MWallace, Sandman70gt, Ricko, mustanggt, Pittstate03, Lazybones, Walkerguy21D, coinandcurrency242 , thebigeng, Collectorcoins, JimTyler, USMarine6, Elkevvo, Coll3ctor, Yorkshireman, CUKevin, ranshdow, Jzyskowski1, CoinHunter4, bennybravo, Centsearcher, braddick, Windycity, ZoidMeister, mirabela, JJM, RichURich
66+/67
66 full steps
.....where are the contact marks? Looking at the full coin image on a phone is about the 5x magnification graders use. I’ve read the Sheldon scale ........and nicks and contact marks, by quantity allowed, are specified for grade number. I can certainly print out the criterion of the grading scale, but point being certain defects visible at 5x determine the grade. •••••. There’s no “winner” or “loser” here, but sometimes I just have to laugh a bit with posts like the MS64 guess, or the theory of the MS60 excuse/thing. •••••. All in all, I am totally surprised NO ONE realized this is a Satin Finish 2005 Mint Set coin, freshly removed from the set, and untouched by human hands (except for just now). its not a business strike, with a mintage of 1.3 million, and should carry an SP grade prefix. It has a satin surface, and mirror rims. Having owned a 2006 Satin Finish MS70RD, the differences here are one of a slight lack of reverse field flatness. I’d grade it SP68,
Dude, you can't really form a pinion on a photo like that, much less grade a coin. Looks like marks above the date but you can't tell because the pic is unfocused. How the hell would anyone possibly know its satin if you can't even define the surface. Spotty on the reverse SP67
Were in the same ( I need a camera ) boat. Take a shot at this one. Had it graded before I even new what a SP was, thought I hit pay dirt MS68.
Submit the coin... best wishes with your efforts to obtain an SP68 grade.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I see some 'marks' on the T of cent on the reverse, and around the base of the T.... If that is on the coin, then I do not think it will garner a 68. Cheers, RickO
Used a different light source (natural north skylight) so these images are much better
Pretty much mark free. Me thinks that even with the "Blems" it might go 67.
Pete
67RD Nice coin. The spots always seem to hold these back. It has 68 surfaces.
Agree... the spots will kill it.
Should not go higher than 67, may not make that.