Which MLB team has the best pitching Mount Rushmore of All Time ?
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A pitcher qualifies for the team that he spent the most years with. So Clemens could only be with the Red Sox. Schilling with the Phillies.
Do the Red Sox have a chance with Cy Young, Roger Clemens, Pedro, and ?
Is it Philadelphia with Grove, Carlton, Schilling, and ?
Is it the Yankees ?
Which team has the best group of 4 starters all time ?
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Baltimore Orioles?
Jim Palmer
Dave McNally
Mike Mussina
Mike Cuellar
<<< Is it Philadelphia with Grove, Carlton, Schilling, and ? >>>
How did you forget Robin Roberts?
Dodgers:
Koufax
Drysdale
Hershiser
Kershaw
Oddly enough, the “futile fillies” have three great nominees despite their poor records. Grove was an Athletics star, not for the Phillies. You could name Grover Cleveland Alexander instead.
you'd probably have to make a distinction on how many years/games would a player need to qualify for one team....ie it might be Cleveland if you add up all the HOF pitchers who played at least one year there because they had a bunch of HOFers who were only there for 1-3 years like Steve Carlton, Niekro, Eckersley, Wilhelm, Newhauser, Satchel Paige, Jack Morris, then Gaylord Perry was an Indian for 4 years, Blyleven was there for 5 years etc.
But for actual HOFers who played the majority of their careers with Cleveland, they had 6
Cy Young
Bob Feller
Bob Lemon
Early Wynn
Addie Joss
Stan Coveleski
As much as it pains me, I'd vote Red Sox with Young, Clemens, Pedro and Babe Ruth.
If Ruth is ineligible then Smokey Joe Wood.
Don Sutton probably makes the list ahead of Hershiser
as would
Dazzy Vance
Burleigh Grimes
Rube Marquard was a Dodger for 6 years
so there's 5 actual HOF Dodger pitchers, one sort of a Dodger HOFer in Marquard (8 years with the Giants), and then one future HOFer in Kershaw.
Giants have 8
Christy Mathewson
Carl Hubbell
Juan Marichal
Gaylord Perry
Amos Rusie
Mickey Welch
Tim Keefe
Joe McGinnity
First, Grove pitched for the A's so he can't be on the Phillies Mt. Rushmore.
Top candidates:
Phillies: Carlton, Roberts, Alexander, Schilling. The problem is that Schilling only pitched 8 years for the Phillies and they weren't his best years. Alexander pitched his best years for the Phillies, but it was only 7 years.
Red Sox: Clemens, Cy Young, Martinez, and somebody. Somebody is probably Lefty Grove, who finished his career on the Red Sox, but his best years were on the A's. Also, Cy Young's best years were also on other teams.
Giants: Mathewson, Marichal, Hubbell, Amos Rusie. That's 4 HOFers, and while Rusie is the weak link, he was awfully good.
But I think the winner is...
Braves: Kid Nichols, Greg Maddux, Phil NIekro, Warren Spahn. This is not just 4 HOFers, it's 4 top-tier HOFers; 4 of the top 40 pitchers of all time. If we're going to be sticklers for pitching on the "Braves", and we eliminate Nichols because he pitched on the "Beaneaters" (the franchise name before they changed to "Braves"), then he can be replaced with Smoltz or Glavine, also HOFers.
Dodgers
1. Koufax
2. Drysdale
3. Kershaw
4. Sutton
Only because I was a Dodger fan years ago. I would go with Hershiser over Kershaw if the game was important. Sandy Koufax in 1965-66 was in a league of his own. You had to be there. Nobody has come close to him since. NOBODY. ⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾
This.
Dodgers or Braves came to my mind first
Braves were my first thought as well, but did not mention them in the OP to see if anyone else thought the same.