Who would you invest in?
VintagemanEd
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Who or what would you put 5k or 10k into for future value these days?
Mahomes is the first name that comes to mind but maybe he shouldn’t be.
Luka
Giannis
Tua
Burrow
Tatis
Thinking about moving a few things to do some more speculating! Thoughts?
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I vote Tatis and Burrow in that order. So much health risk with any young NFL player, which is why I list Tatis ahead.
Pure Speculation. None of the above.
Try dead HOFer's
chaz
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I’d go with Devonte Graham for $5k and Jarrett Allen for another $5
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Ok let’s narrow it down to rookies from 2017 to current. I have enough dead HOFers so this is a side investment
You can NEVER have enough dead hall of famers.... you must be new to the game kid....you won't stay a virgin very long in this business.
chaz
Luka - already max'd on value so little room left to make a profit
Giannis - He'll stay about the same.
Tua - unproven and easily the biggest gamble out of the five.
Burrow - Biggest upside.
Tatis - Still plenty of room for upward movement.
Tatis #1
Burrow #2
burrow? with that leg and that offensive line?
Soto
Clayton Kershaw
Nick Chubb
DK Metcalf
Alexis Lafreniere
Jamal Murray
Zion
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I have talked to Ed directly about the hobby. He is far from a newbie. He does have a specific point of view on the hobby but to each his own.
As for hobby investments, the best opportunities lie in players that you think that could become iconic. Even though they were already at "max" level, it is clear that high end Tom Brady, Lebron, and Jordan were undervalued at any price level over the past decade.
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rui hachimura
I like to think "Championships" and "Legacy". Greek Freak may or may not win some. He's gonna need help (which he may or may not get). Either way I like the "Legacy" part. He wants to win it his way with the team that drafted him. But I think his prices already have the expectations of at least one championship in them already. Out of the list I like Luka best. Yeah, his prices are already high for his short time in the league. But they should be. Like Mahomes in the NFL this dude is a game changer. But unlike Mahomes he's not surrounded by a team of players that can all make plays. They're at least one more player away from really contending. I think it'll take some time, but I think eventually Cuban surrounds him with a winning cast.
Thx NDLeo......... my son and I do love Luka for sure and I still kick myself for not going big on him earlier. I like these discussions
I would go with Soto. I think he is still on the way up. Good luck with whomever you choose.
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this being an "investment" thread, the problem i see with a lot of the folks on this list is the price point at which it takes to enter the market. the time to invest in soto, luka, giannis, etc was a couple of years ago. and i'm a soto guy. but would i ever buy a indy or black at $10k plus? nope, i did buy 14 of them for around $3 to $400 a while back though. i can assure you no one has been or will continue to be rooting for soto more than me. i am beyond thrilled to see his price points these days and my pick paying off should i ever sell.
right now, i think it's guys like rui, bol bol and apparently talen horton tucker that you can throw $5k at and have a massive pay day w a some what minimal risk. the problem w guys still playing is there are way too many unforeseen circumstances that could arise. however, i agree w nathaniel and if you looking for slow, but steady long term success guys like jackie, mantle, ruth are a no brainer.
Bol Bol......2023 MVP
10pts, 6 rebounds and an assist last night.
oh yeah. in only 6 mins. 😉
I am not a modern guy but certainly didn't realize Soto cards were going that high. I'd pass too at those prices.
I enjoy the input. I have all of the vintage (well not all but I am comfortable with what I have) so this is not about the slow and steady vintage. I know the old hofers are solid but this is about stepping out of my normal zone which is older cards and vintage unopened just to invest for quick 1-3 year profits. As mentioned the price points of getting in is the tricky part. That is why I need y’all s help! Lol
Well don't listen to me. I thought Soto's cards were going for 1-2K. LOL
I realize you're looking at the shortest term possible for the hot new prospect.
IMHO, you gotta look at some of the guys well on the way to a HOF career.
'05 Verlander, '06 Kershaw, '08 Scherzer.
If they are able to finish out strong or strong enough, you will see the market react accordingly.
2011 Trout as well (currently priced too high)
Garbage time stats.
in 10s, his base tu/tcu are floating right around $240. pink refractors and foils right at the 1k mark. but the higher end stuff like a indy or black 10 will run $15k plus already. so i guess, technically the op needs to decide are we talking loading up on base gems, which seems to be the new norm these days (i don't suggest) or going 1 or 2 upper echelon cards of a modern guy...
i would suggest going higher end and possibly team color matched refractors for whoever you decide. the team color match thing seems to be taking precedence over lower numbered refractors, ie luka blues, trae reds, the soto indy, giannis greens, etc.
Yeah jackie RC’s too the moon
garbage or not, i'll gladly take those stats in that amount of minutes.
Buck logic and go with sleepers like Dick Pole or Rusty Kuntz. Both underappreciated and both will reach the crowning point. Buy now before the rise begins......
i could watch that pair go at it all night!
Very interesting thread. Investment or gamble? IMO the highest upside lies with basketball and going with upper echelon product would be a no brainer if considering 5-10K. Tons of new money, collectors/investors on a world wide platform and these cards are considered holdings to them with the objective of profit. I'm a mid-grade vintage collector and fully understand leaving the norm to dabble in modern. I dabbled the last 3 years in basketball and chose Optic Shock since it was cheap and I don't fully know what I'm doing.
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Don't sleep on 80's-90's hockey key rookies. Pretty affordable right now, but creeping up.
Mahomes would be the first and last name that comes to mind as well as all names in between.
But you should have asked me three years ago when 'Patrick Mahomes, the next great NFL quarterback' was my sigline.
I think now I would go with Justin Herbert over Joe Burrow since Burrows injury is so serious.
Herbert was thrown into the fire with no advance warning and responded like a seasoned verteran not a rookie.
If I'm going to invest, I'll do it in the stock market. If I'm going to try to do it in sportscards, I'd do it in 50s HoFers. If I'm looking for a complete gamble, then still none of these. You're looking for someone who is very young and has good fundamentals, but is not expected to be great. Much more upside in Jo Adell than in Tatis at this point. Pick a rookie mid-round QB who is sitting on the bench learning his craft over Burrow. Chance to go from $5 to $10,000 rather than $1000 to $10,000.
Jayson Tatum. His first three NBA seasons from a statistical comparison were on the level of Lebron,Kobe & KD and two out of those three years where he was the #1 option on offense he led the Celtics into the ECF. I think he’s currently just a step behind Giannis & Luka as the NBA’s best young players.
Eric
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i can get behind tatum. plenty of marketing dollars behind him too. i'll round out my picks with michael porter jr. and coby white. coby is pretty solid plus going from unc to chicago has worked in the past. drawing a blank as to who that was. 😉 either way unc and chicago both have big basketball collectors markets. regardless if the guy fizzles out or not there will always be collectors of his cards. heck 2019 prizm rodman cards in the bulls uni still sell pretty strongly. stick to tried and true silvers and you should be golden if he pans out. which w that pedigree and collector base shouldn't be hard. i would not waste a single minute though. his stuff is climbing as i type.
I’m not greedy, I’ll take $1000 to $10,000 all day long
Ah, but that's only if everything goes right. It's like buying Tom Brady in 2005, not 2000. That would have worked out, but there are a heck of a lot hat wouldn't have. Buying Ryan Leaf would have been like trying to turn $1000 to $10,000 too.
I am very inexperienced with modern but along the lines of this thread if I wanted to invest 2k in Luca and/or Tatum what’s are a few good options?. I am open minded on several cards to add up to the 2k or one. Appreciate any ideas.
Steve
silver 9s.
although you might be able to pick up 3 lucas status 10 blues if and when they surface. probably the only blue rookie you can get of him that isn't over $5k right now. consult before you purchase as psa has slabbed several blues that are the reg versions.
Gregg Jeffries
not a blue:
true blue:
Thanks Blurry. Even PSA with 2 reviewers gets confused.
anytime!
Patrick mahomes. Hands down.
He’s next level on accuracy and every interview with him, it’s all about the team effort and winning as a team. A true role model.
I digress, but he isn’t gonna slow down.
Owning his rookies are gonna be THE investment for the future.
Rofles...what’s your view on which Mahomes would fit the 2k profile?
You may be right, but he’s going to have a tough time competing with Tom Brady rookies.
Any optic parallel in a PSA 10, or even base optic for that matter. It’s his only rookie with his helmet off.
I feel though you’re talking 2 different investments. And by that I mean, Brady rookies have taken off, yes. But when we look at the upside in these rookies, Mahomes rookies still have ALOT of room to run up, not to mention, his RPA’s are already competing with Brady’s.
Wouldn’t his “run up” depend on how many more rings he gets ?
Right now he’s Drew Brees like, or no ?
Absolutely, I I think it’s contingent on that. And if you look what he’s accomplished, he’s well on his way to do doing so. And that’s also what I meant when I referred to upside. The sun is setting on Brady. And rising on mahomes. Mahomes is gonna be the one I think who will challenge Brady’s post season records. The talent is generational.