*** Results Posted *** GTG - 3 More Coins - Circulated this time
BryceM
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OK, this is the third one of these that I've done, maybe the last for a while. A few people got bored by all mint-state stuff, so here's something a little different. Again, all three of these coins are in PCGS plastic. No clues about straight-grades vs details grades or CAC status this time. Not all of them are in the same holders or at the same grades since I purchased them. These are my photos, and the photo technique is reasonably consistent between the three. It's possible one of these is no longer in my collection.
Guess the assigned grades. The first person to nail it (if any) wins a prize, but bragging rights will FAR exceed the value of the prize. 
Enjoy, and good luck!
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All 3 are really nice!
VG10
XF45
AU55
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Hmmm, tough call. Better send them to me for a closer look.
Nice coins, great images!
10
40
53
15
45
58
10 very nice (Edited, so I disqualify myself. And Meltdown already had the same grades, anyway.)
45 very nice
55 very nice
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
vg10
xf45
au58
Great images scale of 1-10, 10 all day long.
F15
XF40
AU50
FN12
AU50
AU53
Fine details/damage for the pit in the hair.
XF-45
AU-50
10
55
58
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I like all three for the grades assigned. The last two would fit in my collection. I usually like my Draped Bust Quarters to be a little stronger.
8
40
50
Edited the middle one. Early here.
We was close!
10
40
+
50 for me
Quarters are CAC + the Dollar isn't.
It would be quite a challenge to like them for the grades assigned, without knowing what the grades are. How do you know the grades?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
12
50
55
All CAC, at those grades.
10
40
50
VG10
AU50
AU53
Nobody has it 100% correct yet, but some are close.
I wouldn’t expect anyone to guess correctly, based on such blurry and otherwise subpar images.😈
Seriously, though, great pictures, as usual!👍
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
10
45
53
VG10
XF45 (looks XF42.5)
AU53
I think all three are straight grades, and here's what I think
VG8 (looks nicer but I think this got net graded a bit)
EF45
EF45
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Todd - BHNC #242
F12
AU53
Details AU cleaned
12
30
55
8
40
53
I could see the 1820 Half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as a 45.
The grade I could see, but maybe not as a Quarter
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
I am not going by the grades so much as I am going by the look. It's the type look that I prefer is most older coins.
As the grades, I studied grading since I bought my first Brown and Dunn book in the mid 1960s. Yes, it's grading from photos which can have its pitfalls, but I know what I'm doing.
You have taken a solid lead in the contest for worst guess.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I understand that you know what you’re doing. That wasn’t the point.
You wrote “I like all three for the grades assigned.” But you/we don’t know what the assigned grades are. So, while you can like the look, the coins might be graded higher or lower than you feel is merited and it’s currently impossible to like them for the assigned grades.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
15
40
AU details cleaned
12
40
55
I'll guess pcgs 6, 35, and 45, though they are all liner coins with Net Gradable issues, imho, that could on another day, past, present, or future, find themselves in vg, ef, and au slabs, "problem free" on the 2nd or 3rd teir tpgs, or in pcgs Details slabs with damage/tooling notations.
Attractive coins and great pictures!
All would be right at home in a nice type set
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Very tough (one man) crowd!
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VG8. VF35. AU50
F15, XF40, AU50. onward and upward!
VG 10
XF 40
AU 55
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VG10, AU53, AU53. Beautiful coins, thank you for sharing and taxing our brains and grading skills. Ooh, I shouldn't have mentioned taxing.
Jim
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10 (could also see 12 here)
40
55+
Nice coins! I would bean them all at the above grades.
I love those coins. Great group.
Wow. So nobody guessed it perfectly. I say "guessed", since I really believe that each of these coins could be a grade either way from what's on the label and nobody would get too excited about it. The majority of the guesses were in the ballpark.
Here they are, again with my comments:
This one has a bunch of things that might pull the grade in different directions. The little pit near the hair ribbon is the biggest detractor. On a really, really bad day this could end up in a "details" holder, but that's a little harsh for something from the early 19th century. On the plus side, the look is really nice with even wear and no other distractions. I think the F12 grade is fair, but I don't hold anything against those who went VG10. I bought this without the sticker and was slightly surprised when it got one, due to the little hair-ribbon divot.
I got this one at a very small shop not far from home. It was in a misattributed holder (it's a flat base 2) and I dropped it off at our host's table during a show. They fixed it and shipped it back to me for free. It then failed to get a bean, which surprised me a bit. I looked it over carefully (again) and still didn't see anything I didn't like. I sold it a while back for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me now. It's a nice coin and there's really nothing wrong with it.
This one I really like. It's solid. There are a couple little hits, most notably on Liberty's left thigh, but they're pretty well hidden and they don't stand out. The reverse is really fun. Detail is sharp, color is even, and it's just hard to ask too much more from a lightly circulated, enormous coin. I bought it in an OGH as an AU50. I sent it to CAC who declined to sticker it. For some reason I included it on a PCGS regrade submission and it came back as an AU53. I submitted it to CAC again, and this time they stickered it. Go figure. I'm still not sure if I like it more as an OGH AU50 or new-holder AU53 CAC. Either way, the coin looks pretty much the same, I suppose.
As an aside, as a surgeon, I'm still trying to figure out how Miss Liberty's neck originates near her left shoulder. Scoliosis, maybe? Congenital torticolis?
Hmm, well I reckon that I over thought this group, and considered the theme to be Net Grades, in response to the 1817/4 thread.
In addition to the obv. dig, the top and bottom horizontal shield lines on the quarter look enhanced by intentional cuts.
On the half, it looks like someone tried to efface/soften some marks on the face and neck, resulting in the patches.
And the obverse of the dollar looks lightly burnished to me.
Shoulda gone with first impressions, which were closer to "right" 😉
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
I’m late but I guessed 12, 45 and 53 (before scrolling down)
That half is awesome looking, IMO.
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I was late to this party and guessed too high on all three...one or two grades higher on all of them actually. I really enjoy your GTG posts, and your commentary is enlightening to say the least. I encourage you to keep up with these and truly do not think I'm the only one that feels this way. Your comment on the origination of Miss Liberty's neck has always intrigued me as well.
Great contest.
My grades - 10, 45 (42.5), 53.
Strictly speaking the 1806 quarter is a 10 - look at PCGS photograde and it is a 10. CAC won't care between 10 and 12 bc to them it is just VG/F and it is all about the surfaces to them.. I said 42.5 for the 1/2, bc, it is really in the middle of 40 and 45, obviously a high end 40. The 53 is correct, no disagreements.
In addition, typically between 40 and 45 is is more about luster under the light than wear, luster is something hard to tell in the images......
Best, SH
"As an aside, as a surgeon, I'm still trying to figure out how Miss Liberty's neck originates near her left shoulder. Scoliosis, maybe? Congenital torticolis?"
I checked with a chiropractor, they said it's a big subluxation, but no problem, 15 or 20 adjustments should fix it.
Huh. For the first time I tried the “photograde” thingy on the first coin, really comparing details and appearance, and thought it to be a solid match with VG8. Before I looked at those pictures, I felt it vG10....I am surprised at the holder. I’d never in a million years crack that out hoping for an upgrade. I thought circulated would be more of a challenge