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UPDATE! Any chance I could have help authenticating a Cartier piece? UPDATE!

KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 18, 2020 9:38AM in Precious Metals

Update at the bottom of the thread. :)
I know this is a precious metal forum (well it is a gold bar :p ) but I wanted to see if anyone knew much on Cartier markings. The diamond and gold are real. Thanks!


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does the 750 on the bar indicate .750 fine or 18K?

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    Does the 750 on the bar indicate .750 fine or 18K?

    .750 fine and/or 18k. Cartier is a French jewelry designer and in Europe they mark it by the percentage of gold.

    18k - .750
    14k - .585
    10k - .417

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2020 1:33PM

    I was able to find these online....

    https://www.tradesy.com/i/cartier-c24848-diamond-18-oz-ingot-18k-yellow-gold-bar-pendant-charm/27154930/

    https://www.tradesy.com/i/cartier-yellow-gold-diamond-18-oz-ingot-18k-bar-pendant-charm/24633574/

    https://www.tradesy.com/i/cartier-23856-diamond-18-oz-ingot-18k-white-gold-bar-pendant-charm/26410481/

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The problem is not knowing what a "real" one looks like. The rule of thumb is that name brand jewelry from well-known makers like Tiffany must be absolutely flawless in their manufacture. No seams present, no soldering visible. But I don't know Tiffany well, and I know Cartier even less so.

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss Thanks. The first thing that I noticed when I got it was that the loop was soldered closed and even with a loupe it was hard to identify where the seam was.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At 1/8 ounce it must be really small. Can we get a pic next to a cent or dime to get some idea as to how small it is?

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2020 4:22PM

    It’s really tiny but heavy when held.
    Next to a penny, dime, 1 gram silver bar, and a British three pence.

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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pardon me sir , do you have any Grey Poupon ?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice little jewelry piece.... would make interesting earrings for a lady. Cheers, RickO

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Nice little jewelry piece.... would make interesting earrings for a lady. Cheers, RickO

    I think it would be a bit heavy as earrings. I kinda like it as a pendant as it sits.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting piece

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It really is a interesting piece.

    Anyone know of an authentication service I can use? Trying to stick to online resources for now. I did pay a pretty penny for it but nowhere close what's it's worth intending to flip it. It did come with a Cartier branded pouch, A branded box and a little envelope with a hook to keep the pendant in.

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Update:

    I was able to contact Richemont, Cartier's parent company to see if this was real. I was able to contact them through eBay's VeRO program that protects intellectual property of many companies. It took 2 tries but I was able to get a response that the item appears genuine from the pictures sent. :)

    Very happy at this outcome. Although I did purchase this piece to flip, I'm probably gonna keep it as its a interesting piece.

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maintain that correspondence and offer to include it (redacted if necessary) with the piece if you sell it.

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  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    Maintain that correspondence and offer to include it (redacted if necessary) with the piece if you sell it.

    Yeah. I tried contacting Cartier directly but they were no help so I had to do a bit of searching before I could find the right people to contact.

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