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Eliasberg Coins, Anyone have any?

Would love to see pics. I remember getting the catalogs way way back as a poor young fella. The coin auction of all coin auctions.

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  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    Oh my. Beautiful half fluffy!!

  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They need to be in the original OGH to get me excited.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 5:15PM

    Anyone get any of the lower graded offerings that weren't necessarily the top notch stuff? Always just wanted one of his coins way back. I used to pour over those catalogs and learned a whole lot.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    I remember the morgan dollar "lots" that weren't finest ever gazillion dollar things and thinking i'd grab one of those some day when it came around again. You never see them come up though.

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 360 ✭✭✭✭

    So many, I've always loved the pedigree and often thought in early bust halves it added to the coins value. I'm not sure it means much now. The registry has taken over.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 5:37PM

    I agree GoBust. I have a '21 Morgan in MS65 that I bought from Jack Lee personally at a local show in Mississippi. Pedigrees are important to many of us and not whether they're in a green or blue holder with a CAC tag.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 5:54PM

    @JimTyler said:
    They need to be in the original OGH to get me excited.

    There are many books out there Jim. I'd highly recommend learning how to grade for yourself and not relying on the color of a label! There are some great coins with a blue tag too. Don't limit yourself!

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 6:22PM

    I used to own this Col. Green/Eliasberg IHC PR66BN

    Nice pedigree, but not very attractive. But Green and Eliasberg owned such extensive collections an ugly IHC was not of concern to them. I replaced it with this one.......

    OINK

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 5:58PM

    @OldIndianNutKase said:
    I used to own this Col. Green/Eliasberg IHC PR6BN

    Nice pedigree, but not very attractive. But Green and Eliasberg owned such extensive collections an ugly IHC was not of concern to them.

    OINK

    That's a great indian cent man! Very pretty!

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bennybravo said:

    @JimTyler said:
    They need to be in the original OGH to get me excited.

    There are many books out there Jim. I'd highly recommend learning how to grade for yourself and not relying on the color of a label! There are some great coins with a blue tag too. Don't limit yourself!

    And there are some subpar ones in OGH’s.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions

    *Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my own personal opinions.

  • I'm NOT being sarcastic, as he seems to have made the coin collecting area well-known.

    What is the history of Eliasberg ?
    A coin dealer from the 1920's, 1930's ?
    He amassed many of the coins wheeling & dealing with other coin dealers, during a time when the coins went for little over face value ?
    Acquired many key dates, which just pushed their value higher as he became more acclaimed as a coin dealer ?

    But before Eliasberg having the coins, who had them ?
    Average, regular coin collectors ?
    Does the Pedigree start with him or end with him ?
    Did his family or children hold on to them or was everything liquidated before or after he passed away ?

    Any info would be great.

    Chris

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020 7:03PM

    @SilverEagle1974 said:
    I'm NOT being sarcastic, as he seems to have made the coin collecting area well-known.

    What is the history of Eliasberg ?
    A coin dealer from the 1920's, 1930's ?
    He amassed many of the coins wheeling & dealing with other coin dealers, during a time when the coins went for little over face value ?
    Acquired many key dates, which just pushed their value higher as he became more acclaimed as a coin dealer ?

    But before Eliasberg having the coins, who had them ?
    Average, regular coin collectors ?
    Does the Pedigree start with him or end with him ?
    Did his family or children hold on to them or was everything liquidated before or after he passed away ?

    Any info would be great.

    Chris

    Sorry @SilverEagle1974 said,

    Here's a bit of info on who he was. He tried to get one of everything my friend!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_E._Eliasberg

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 3,424 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not me. When I first started on these forums I saw on the BST there was a 3 cent piece with Eliasberg on the label. A bit of a premium but doable, just didn't realize the value then. I still regret not grabbing that one.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    Dad Gum Andy!!!! Just wow!!!!

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    @scubafuel said:

    Wowsers! Great coin!!!

  • @bennybravo said:

    @SilverEagle1974 said:
    I'm NOT being sarcastic, as he seems to have made the coin collecting area well-known.

    What is the history of Eliasberg ?
    A coin dealer from the 1920's, 1930's ?
    He amassed many of the coins wheeling & dealing with other coin dealers, during a time when the coins went for little over face value ?
    Acquired many key dates, which just pushed their value higher as he became more acclaimed as a coin dealer ?

    But before Eliasberg having the coins, who had them ?
    Average, regular coin collectors ?
    Does the Pedigree start with him or end with him ?
    Did his family or children hold on to them or was everything liquidated before or after he passed away ?

    Any info would be great.

    Chris

    Sorry @SilverEagle1974 said,

    Here's a bit of info on who he was. He tried to get one of everything my friend!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_E._Eliasberg

    So, it seems he was the Champion of coin collecting.
    He did amass a large collection of valuable coins. Almost everything possible.
    But I guess he did NOT distinguish between proofs & mint-state coins. So, he fell short on a complete collection.
    He passed his collection to his children who, in turn, sold it off.

    My next question is who had most of the coins BEFORE him ??
    Average people or the well-to-do collector ?

    I am curious.

    Any help would be great.

    Chris

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  • CommemDudeCommemDude Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeremy took these pictures for me when he was just a lad in college and lived in NJ

    Dr Mikey
    Commems and Early Type
  • JimTylerJimTyler Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2020 4:20AM

    @bennybravo said:

    @JimTyler said:
    They need to be in the original OGH to get me excited.

    There are many books out there Jim. I'd highly recommend learning how to grade for yourself and not relying on the color of a label! There are some great coins with a blue tag too. Don't limit yourself!

    Beside the fact I like original ( even the holder) later holders are probably upgrades. Nothing to do with learning to grade. With that said I don’t pretend to be an expert grader.

  • DoubleDimeDoubleDime Posts: 555 ✭✭✭

    I have a 1971 Proof Set in a special Capital plastic holder from B&M Galleries.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 22, 2020 11:35AM

    @DoubleDime said:
    I have a 1971 Proof Set in a special Capital plastic holder from B&M Galleries.

    Is the B&M Galleries pedigree stamped on the special Capital plastic holder?

  • edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverEagle1974
    MS65+ CAC Gold

    Matthew A. Stickney Collection - Henry Chapman 6/1907:1116 - John H. Clapp Collection, sold intact in 1942 - Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection - Bowers & Merena 4/1997:1943, $9,350 - Legend Numismatics, sold privately in 10/2003 - Eugene H. Gardner Collection, Part III - Heritage 5/2015:98468, $30,550

    Eliasberg purchased the Clapp Collection intact.

  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,292 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have 5 of the 99 1883 No Cent nickels from his set. In the past I had the 1899 Proof Liberty Nickel.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is a double eagle with the Eliasberg pedigree. It was lot 936 in the 1982 Bowers & Ruddy sale. It has nice luster for an AU example, which you can see in the images. It has been approved by CAC (after the photo was taken).

    I have always wondered if this coin was originally in the Clapp collection, but it was not mentioned in the 1982 B&R Catalog.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 19,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is one of my favorite foreign designs (both obverse and reverse), and since I couldn't afford much out of the Eliasberg sale, I opted for a somewhat generic piece to get a coin I liked with a tie to a great collection. I couldn't skip school to go to the auction live, but I may have had to go to the bathroom 3 or 4 times during one math class to get updates on the sale from @MrEureka.

    Old photos from when I got the coin in 2005


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  • DoubleDimeDoubleDime Posts: 555 ✭✭✭

    To answer HYdrant it does. Printed on it says "From the Louis E. Eliasberg , Sr. Collection. Auctions by Bowers and Merena, Inc. April 1997 From Lot 3008". It also comes with a letter signed by them. The holder is 8x10 and 79 such sets were made up. Sets were for Proof Sets !968 -72 and S.M.S. I heard about one other collector on the boards who had a set like this. Guess you would call this a pedigree for a poor man. Certainly not a high profile coin.

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    WOW! GREAT coins everyone!!!!!

  • bennybravobennybravo Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭

    That is awesome airplanenut!!!!

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