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jabbajabba Posts: 3,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

I’ve read a couple of articles about possible design but I don’t think there’s any legislation on what happens to the Washington quarter after the last National park in the first quarter of 2021 would they just revert back to the original design?

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2020 8:36AM

    It will be the “Bespoke” Quarter program. Every American will have a reverse design created especially for them. Seriously though, the best design Ever is the 1975(6) Bicentennial Drummer Boy. Put that back on, and let it stay on.

  • HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    Yep... surprised that George has survived the PC storm....Cheers, RickO

    Give it time. It's coming and soon.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jabba said:
    I’ve read a couple of articles about possible design but I don’t think there’s any legislation on what happens to the Washington quarter after the last National park in the first quarter of 2021 would they just revert back to the original design?

    I know I read of a proposal a while back to put Washington Crossing the Delaware on the opposite side of the coin from the existing Washington's bust. But never heard any confirmation of this. If true, I suppose it would vaguely resemble the New Jersey statehood quarter from 1999.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally I’d like something like the SLQ. At least they were beautiful and classy. I’ve never cared much for the Washington quarters.

    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I love what the US Mint has done with the quarter series, some beautiful work, and some not so.

    Perhaps, A series on North American Animals. They could individually do Mammals, Birds, Reptiles, Fishes, and Insects.

    Then perhaps go into plants of NA.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    or will they have the ATB design all year?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "The Great Movies" series.

    Exit bunker, enter Matrix. LOL

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2020 10:48AM

    @derryb said:
    "The Great Movies" series.

    I like it but only If I get to decide.

    Who would make the list?

    "idiocracy" would have to be the first coin in the series as it is one of the best movies of all time :o

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be a welcome change to see Lincoln, Jefferson, FDR, Washington and JFK removed from the cent, nickel, dime, quarter and half dollar and replace with something different.

    In fact, is there any reason why the cent and nickel should not be retired for good (like the 1/2 cent, two cent piece, three cent piece and twenty cent piece were in the 19th century?

    Pocket change will still be necessary but how about denominations of the dime, quarter, half dollar (smaller sized), dollar and two dollar coins be minted for and used in circulation (round up or down to the nearest 10 cent figure in transactions). Retire the one dollar and two dollar bills to encourage the use of circulating dollar and two dollar coinage.

    Of course doing the above will be temporary as society continues its migration to digital money.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2020 12:21PM

    The trouble with the Quarter is we are So familiar with the 25 cent denomination. Let’s change the values to reflect the importance of what each quarter design represents. So, some quarters would be worth less than 25 cents, maybe only 21 cents, if their reverse design honors something relatively obscure. However, Important designs with a popular theme of the design may be worth 31 cents or so. These accepted and adjusted revaluations would be explained in long 2 minute public service commercials on TV and the Internet. ••••• All existing and circulating quarters will be revalued according to these guidelines. If political sentiment changes , and a particular design loses a following, it may be devalued. Hence, all Quarters overall will trade at 24 cents, with the one cent devaluation based on today’s interpretation of George Washington. Whew!

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    "The Great Movies" series.

    Yeah, we can all agree on that list....wait,... who's list?

  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,580 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve got to agree with the drummer boy but I still like the classic Washington Eagle design as though it’s time to retire that for good

    "I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the subject of George Washington, you may find this link interesting. It deals with his last ailment, treatment and eventual passing. You will be Shocked at how he was treated! https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/the-death-of-george-washington/

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that looks like washington retreating across the delaware

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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a fan.

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They need to do something about the speghetti hair though.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2020 3:40PM

    the one on the right is a 2020 coin. not completely gone, but close.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ambro51 said:
    It will be the “Bespoke” Quarter program. Every American will have a reverse design created especially for them. Seriously though, the best design Ever is the 1975(6) Bicentennial Drummer Boy. Put that back on, and let it stay on.

    I wholeheartedly second that suggestion.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    that would diminish its meaning with respect to the bicentennial years.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find it astonishing how nobody recalls what the law establishing the program said...

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/6184/text

    (7) Period of issuance.-- (A) In general.--Subject to paragraph (2), the program established under this subsection shall continue in effect until a national site in each State has been honored. (B) Second round at discretion of secretary.-- (i) Determination.--The Secretary may make a determination before the end of the 9-year period beginning when the first quarter dollar is issued under this subsection to continue the period of issuance until a second national site in each State, the District of Columbia, and each territory referred to in this subsection has been honored with a design on a quarter dollar. (ii) Notice and report.--Within 30 days after making a determination under clause (i), the Secretary shall submit a written report on such determination to the Committee on Financial Services of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs of the Senate.

    Since the above did NOT occur...

    (8) Designs after end of program.--Upon the completion of the coin program under this subsection, the design on-- (A) the obverse of the quarter dollar shall revert to the same design containing an image of President Washington in effect for the quarter dollar before the institution of the 50-State quarter dollar program; and (B) notwithstanding the fourth sentence of subsection (d)(1), the reverse of the quarter dollar shall contain an image of General Washington crossing the Delaware River prior to the Battle of Trenton.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • olympicsosolympicsos Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    Going back to the SLQ and earlier quarter designs will likely not happen.

    If an attempt was made to discuss doing so it would gain no traction because someone would claim that the earlier designs are not politically correct.

    I wonder how long it will be before there is a call for Washington to be removed from the quarter and from the one dollar bill for the same reason.

    I have a better idea, taking Washington off the quarter would be respectful of his wishes not to be on any money.

  • ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭

    @Coinlearner said:
    Maybe go back 100+ years ?? :o



    Going back to the bust quarter would be my preference. :)

    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As @BStrauss3 points out above, the legislation, in rare foresight, that established current reverse designs spells it out.

    (8) Designs after end of program.--Upon the completion of the coin program under this subsection, the design on-- (A) the obverse of the quarter dollar shall revert to the same design containing an image of President Washington in effect for the quarter dollar before the institution of the 50-State quarter dollar program; and (B) notwithstanding the fourth sentence of subsection (d)(1), the reverse of the quarter dollar shall contain an image of General Washington crossing the Delaware River prior to the Battle of Trenton.

    I'm not sure, but don't hate, the design shown in the Coin World article is the best. I would like to see several designs like we are used to seeing for new coins / medals. I would favor a modern depiction of the Delaware crossing. (Jet Ski's ? LOL)


  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The original eagle reverse is much too crowded IMO. We need something else. The Washington crossing the Delaware is much better.

  • CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,603 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wasn't it a law at one time, that any regular issue coin denomination over a dime, had to have an eagle reverse? Don't know when, or if that changed.

    I'm all for going back to the eagle that we had on the reverse prior to the State Quarters, or another eagle design. The eagle is a patriotic symbol to me.

    I'm getting tired of these supposed special issue quarters, that remind me of Chuckie Cheese tokens.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that's still the law except when Congress over rides it as they did for all the quarters 1999 to date.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinHoarder said:

    I'm getting tired of these supposed special issue quarters, that remind me of Chuckie Cheese tokens.

    Chuckie Cheese...Now there's an idea. State foods. Cranberries for Massachusetts, Crabs for Maryland, Poi for Hawaii, Lobster for Maine, Salmon for Alaska, Philly Cheese Steak for Pennsylvania, etc. etc.

    Actually I'm just tired of new quarter designs every few weeks...would love to see the design stabilized.

  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭✭

    That new reverse design is quite LAME, in my opinion - - especially as depicted in 2-D. I'd much prefer either going back to the SLQ or Bicentennial designs over that. When one talks about how "crowded" the pre-State Quarters design was, the latest ones like the NJ state quarter are even more so. In my opinion, it's VERY hard to get decent designs that you don't have to look at under a microscope/loupe to enjoy on coins as small as quarters & below. If you want to resurrect interest in collecting, maybe use the non-circulating half-dollar reverses & start issuing them again - - especially since anything under that denomination is hardly worth anything anymore.........

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

  • EbeneezerEbeneezer Posts: 313 ✭✭✭

    An individual on both sides of the same coin to represent who we are as a people. Nice job United States Mint.

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Panda4456 said:
    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

    from @messydesk coinworld article:

    "Public Law 110-456, which authorized the 56-coin America the Beautiful Quarters Program, included two provisions about successor coins.

    One provision authorized, at the Treasury secretary’s discretion, a second 14-year, 56-coin round of quarter dollars, each honoring a national park or historic site in each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia and the five U.S. territories — Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin did not adopt that option by the required close of 2018 deadline."

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:
    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

    from @messydesk coinworld article:

    "Public Law 110-456, which authorized the 56-coin America the Beautiful Quarters Program, included two provisions about successor coins.

    One provision authorized, at the Treasury secretary’s discretion, a second 14-year, 56-coin round of quarter dollars, each honoring a national park or historic site in each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia and the five U.S. territories — Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin did not adopt that option by the required close of 2018 deadline."

    Well that sucks

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Panda4456 said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:
    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

    from @messydesk coinworld article:

    "Public Law 110-456, which authorized the 56-coin America the Beautiful Quarters Program, included two provisions about successor coins.

    One provision authorized, at the Treasury secretary’s discretion, a second 14-year, 56-coin round of quarter dollars, each honoring a national park or historic site in each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia and the five U.S. territories — Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin did not adopt that option by the required close of 2018 deadline."

    Well that sucks

    who knows? new treasury sec, new initiatives 🤷‍♂️ earliest we could expect a new quarter program - based off timings called out in article - might be 2023 🥴

  • Panda4456Panda4456 Posts: 362 ✭✭✭

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:
    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

    from @messydesk coinworld article:

    "Public Law 110-456, which authorized the 56-coin America the Beautiful Quarters Program, included two provisions about successor coins.

    One provision authorized, at the Treasury secretary’s discretion, a second 14-year, 56-coin round of quarter dollars, each honoring a national park or historic site in each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia and the five U.S. territories — Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin did not adopt that option by the required close of 2018 deadline."

    Well that sucks

    who knows? new treasury sec, new initiatives 🤷‍♂️ earliest we could expect a new quarter program - based off timings called out in article - might be 2023 🥴

    I think they should do state birds and remove Washington’s head from the coin. Maybe they should put the Washington monument instead?

  • ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Panda4456 said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:

    @Panda4456 said:
    That’s an ugly quarter! Can’t they just do a ATB part 2 series??

    from @messydesk coinworld article:

    "Public Law 110-456, which authorized the 56-coin America the Beautiful Quarters Program, included two provisions about successor coins.

    One provision authorized, at the Treasury secretary’s discretion, a second 14-year, 56-coin round of quarter dollars, each honoring a national park or historic site in each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia and the five U.S. territories — Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, U.S. Virgin Islands and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin did not adopt that option by the required close of 2018 deadline."

    Well that sucks

    who knows? new treasury sec, new initiatives 🤷‍♂️ earliest we could expect a new quarter program - based off timings called out in article - might be 2023 🥴

    I think they should do state birds and remove Washington’s head from the coin. Maybe they should put the Washington monument instead?

    some great ideas

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe pass a law to make a Trump quarter. :joy: ... then we won't read a tweet, be we can still hear him ring.

  • DBSTrader2DBSTrader2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭✭

    I like the Trump quarter idea. After all, the Mint can do a different reverse design every month for several YEARS of every appointee who ran afoul of the law......... ;)

  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a proposal - as far as I know it never made it as far as a bill submitted to congress - to do a few years of animals, a special design for the 250th anniversary (in 2026) and then several years of youth sports.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50 year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
  • GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 624 ✭✭✭✭

    They should have done the animals. So is the last ATB quarter going to be the only issue in 2021?

  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the idea of State animals or birds or flowers. Could even combine all 3.


  • KudbegudKudbegud Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mint News Blog new today
    https://mintnewsblog.com/interview-with-todd-martin-of-the-united-states-mint/

    In this new blog post is talk about the ASE redesign.

    The "breaking" news is about the quarter designs. This is the first I've heard about what is said



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