@coinofglory said:
51 years of relic hunting and 18 months of study on this coin, Great entertainment yea when the big boys come around they will enjoy it for sure.
S
I would like to know how many of those 51 years were spent with the magnet inadvertently aimed at your head.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
and if any of you wonder why switzerland's top level domain is .ch it is because the proper name is as on the coin above.
but I too found the use of confederation and confederacy by the op confusing.I suppose the confederacy is a confederation, but the common term is confederacy after all.
And with some very odd word combo’s almost like google translate
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As a relic, possibly personally identifiable as being from Hunter McGuire, the piece has historic value and importance. To directly connect the relic, I see no way aside from direct photographic evidence of the “ID medallion” being worn during the Civil War era by McGuire. Secondary verification would be a letter or diary mention, or a personal recollection by a witness to him wearing it. ••••. To try and connect this relic to the “mystery” and rethinking the relic into being a coin, or something like a coin, is defeating the purpose of its real useage. Often, the simplest ID is often the correct one. •••••. I’d like to see an XRF analysis. Is it silver? Anyway, the posts by the OP bear no resemblance to the eloquent writing on the website (incidentally the domain was first registered August 2020, Whois.com also gives the email address of the registrant). When reading the posts he’s written make me think I’m reading posts by Latka Gravis.
@ambro51 said:
As a relic, possibly personally identifiable as being from Hunter McGuire, the piece has historic value and importance. To directly connect the relic, I see no way aside from direct photographic evidence of the “ID medallion” being worn during the Civil War era by McGuire. Secondary verification would be a letter or diary mention, or a personal recollection by a witness to him wearing it. ••••. To try and connect this relic to the “mystery” and rethinking the relic into being a coin, or something like a coin, is defeating the purpose of its real useage. Often, the simplest ID is often the correct one. •••••. I’d like to see an XRF analysis. Is it silver? Anyway, the posts by the OP bear no resemblance to the eloquent writing on the website (incidentally the domain was first registered August 2020, Whois.com also gives the email address of the registrant). When reading the posts he’s written make me think I’m reading posts by Latka Gravis.
With due respect,
Thank you for this insightful post...
~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~ POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
@coinofglory said:
This coin is the famous Dr. McGuires coin, real people, don't let the these jokers for one moment lie to you for there own fad. Asked your self why do they try to down grade the coin, ITS MONEY and they will do any thing to try and keep the cost down and the hate it when you beat them down, don't let these people touch your coin, remember its all about there togatherness here on coin show.
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~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~ POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
And that is the time when Jefferson Davie staff arrived in Richmond Va. It could be that by some under thinking that Judah P. Benjamin might have handed the $20 Silver double eagle Certificate Rebel coin, one of a kind made to Jackson to pin on Dr. McGuire. But the coin being made at New Orleans Mint, places Robert lovett Jr. seal made in 1862 a later date and states a west Va. seal being made, so that statement found we have totally kick the coin at the right time and place it was made and has been proven by fact, the New Orleans mint, The more I go over my work the more I learn too, LOL Me and are research team are now bowing to you all, Thank You, Thank you all very much, We are glad to have been a service to you all in light of this great history study. Having some good luck and faith after 51 years of relic hunting and finding this coin and 18 Months of study of this wonderful Confederate war coin. We must say it is a beautiful study and story. -SH- Doc-Num-46186150-y
This coin is the famous Dr. McGuires coin, real people, don't let the these jokers for one moment lie to you for there own fad. Asked your self why do they try to down grade the coin, ITS MONEY and they will do any thing to try and keep the cost down and the hate it when you beat them down, don't let these people touch your coin, remember its all about there togatherness here on coin show.
REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home.
In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $ 15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance.
Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount to your account or subsequent disbursement, since we as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/ or operating foreign accounts in our names.
Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed to offer you 20 percent of the transferred sum, while 10 percent shall be set aside for incidental expenses (internal and external) between the parties in the course of the transaction. You will be mandated to remit the balance 70 percent to other accounts in due course.
For the few that may not know who this is...
Latka Gravas is a fictional character on the television sitcom Taxi portrayed by Andy Kaufman. A sweet-natured and lovable-but-goofy mechanic, Latka was based on a character Kaufman created known as Foreign Man.
If Latka collected coins he'd be the OP, without a sense of humor or self-awareness.
@coinofglory said:
Coin found in Stone wall Jacksons last camp. Bracteates Coin , but we don't want the readers here to know the truth do they?
I really feel sorry for these people, it takes a gain to try and beat up on one mans coin, O00 That be Bracteates coin again these people so are so desperately are trying not to understand and mention as they right up bad views for collectors to read, Here's the kicker, they just thank coin U.S, they do not thank Confederate States witch Virginia was the 8th state to secede, They are protecting there interest and to sale there coins, and coinofglory is knocking them down hard here and people know it, and there scared as h-ll. Now we understand what all there fuss is really about here just one go to
James Gallier Jr. the " Galliers House " look at the front iron gate, has the celtic same mark on it as the coin..... That is a block and one half from the old New Orleans mint. Gallier made a rebel coin design but never ever made a gold coin, we got the real one here, these guys are running down rabbit holes and don't want to share the truth that we have here in large to knock these boys down hard, let them dig there self's a good hole then we will strike ! Been waiting for this a long time now.
I just wish I knew his native tongue so I could google translate back at him
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For the few that may not know who this is...
Latka Gravas is a fictional character on the television sitcom Taxi portrayed by Andy Kaufman. A sweet-natured and lovable-but-goofy mechanic, Latka was based on a character Kaufman created known as Foreign Man.
If Latka collected coins he'd be the OP, without a sense of humor or self-awareness.
Yes, I was a fan of the show, 'Taxi', I especially liked when Latka transformed into Vic...
~HABE FIDUCIAM IN DOMINO III V VI / III XVI~ POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
So what’s the address so I can help bring the stranded astronaut home. His story is heartbreaking. BTW, I’m still trying to solicit funds to search for the Minnow. I hear the crew is doing well but the professor is running low on coconuts for his radio. PM me for my gofundme account.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
The sad thing about this mess is that the relic looks like it could be linked Dr Hunter McGuire, who appears to be a civil war figure of some importance. I did a little bit of searching, and found his story to be interesting. Here is the Wiki summary
However, the OP continues with this charade of insisting that the relic is some sort of heretofore unknown Confederate coin, even though it has nothing in common with coinage of the era. If he was able to do some serious research, or enlist the help of knowledgeable scholars, the relic might add a small piece to our understanding of the people and events of that significant period of our country's history.
The semi-coherant ramblings on his website do nothing to further the research on this piece, and may even be detrimental to understanding what significance the relic may have. I only hope that someday, it can be properly researched. What a shame.
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Tough to make this kind of stuff up!
Great entertainment. 
My Collection of Old Holders
Never a slave to one plastic brand will I ever be.
The " Big Boys " are already here. ( nope, not me for sure )
Seems like they have already passed judgement.
I would like to know how many of those 51 years were spent with the magnet inadvertently aimed at your head.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
clad coins weren't introduced in the usa until the 1960's
What I can't figure out is he calls it a "coin of the confederation" and not a coin of the Confederacy. What 'Confederation'?
This thread was a waste of disk space.
I know Canada had/has a Confederation (bit not until 1867).
Maybe it is from the Canadian soldiers who fought in the Civil War?
zMMF
and if any of you wonder why switzerland's top level domain is .ch it is because the proper name is as on the coin above.
but I too found the use of confederation and confederacy by the op confusing.I suppose the confederacy is a confederation, but the common term is confederacy after all.
Maybe it was actually a Confectionary?
That would be sweet.
@coinofglory I have to ask...if you are legit why are you coming across so controversial?
And with some very odd word combo’s almost like google translate
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This guy isn't banned yet?
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Man, I haven't put anyone here on Iggy in a long time!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
I wouldn’t be surprised if this “relic” shows up on EBay soon.
As a relic, possibly personally identifiable as being from Hunter McGuire, the piece has historic value and importance. To directly connect the relic, I see no way aside from direct photographic evidence of the “ID medallion” being worn during the Civil War era by McGuire. Secondary verification would be a letter or diary mention, or a personal recollection by a witness to him wearing it. ••••. To try and connect this relic to the “mystery” and rethinking the relic into being a coin, or something like a coin, is defeating the purpose of its real useage. Often, the simplest ID is often the correct one. •••••. I’d like to see an XRF analysis. Is it silver? Anyway, the posts by the OP bear no resemblance to the eloquent writing on the website (incidentally the domain was first registered August 2020, Whois.com also gives the email address of the registrant). When reading the posts he’s written make me think I’m reading posts by Latka Gravis.
Latka Gravis.
I just fell off my chair...
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
This is Friday 13!
With due respect,
Thank you for this insightful post...
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
This is the craziest thing I've heard in quite some time.

Sort of like the pareidolia we encounter here frequently.
The OP sees and believes what he wants to be the truth.
Found in a Coinstar reject bin
Lafayette Grading Set
How can I get my 5 minutes back?
I knew it would happen.
how Old are you?
The relic shown is:
1) not a bracteate (those date from the Medieval and Middle Ages)
2) not a coin.
If the OP can't even get those two facts straight then there isn't much else I would trust from the story.
???
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
Is there a doctor in the house!?
That’s it! I’m calling Walter Breen!
I think it's time we ignore this person.
compare and contrast
This coin is the famous Dr. McGuires coin, real people, don't let the these jokers for one moment lie to you for there own fad. Asked your self why do they try to down grade the coin, ITS MONEY and they will do any thing to try and keep the cost down and the hate it when you beat them down, don't let these people touch your coin, remember its all about there togatherness here on coin show.
I am Dr. Bakare Tunde, the cousin of Nigerian Astronaut, Air Force Major Abacha Tunde. He was the first African in space when he made a secret flight to the Salyut 6 space station in 1979. He was on a later Soviet spaceflight, Soyuz T-16Z to the secret Soviet military space station Salyut 8T in 1989. He was stranded there in 1990 when the Soviet Union was dissolved. His other Soviet crew members returned to earth on the Soyuz T-16Z, but his place was taken up by return cargo. There have been occasional Progrez supply flights to keep him going since that time. He is in good humor, but wants to come home.
In the 14-years since he has been on the station, he has accumulated flight pay and interest amounting to almost $ 15,000,000 American Dollars. This is held in a trust at the Lagos National Savings and Trust Association. If we can obtain access to this money, we can place a down payment with the Russian Space Authorities for a Soyuz return flight to bring him back to Earth. I am told this will cost $ 3,000,000 American Dollars. In order to access the his trust fund we need your assistance.
Consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to transfer the total amount to your account or subsequent disbursement, since we as civil servants are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau (Civil Service Laws) from opening and/ or operating foreign accounts in our names.
Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we have agreed to offer you 20 percent of the transferred sum, while 10 percent shall be set aside for incidental expenses (internal and external) between the parties in the course of the transaction. You will be mandated to remit the balance 70 percent to other accounts in due course.
how do you like the side by side?
side 2 is one of those famous rackets. Side 1 is horribly written and makes it hard to believe just from that alone.
THIS IS GETTING GOOD...
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
I personally find the Nigerian astronaut story easier to understand and more believable.
This thread is STILL here? I thought I'd never see it again.
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Quit wasting your time with this “coin” and go back to grammar school.
For the few that may not know who this is...
Latka Gravas is a fictional character on the television sitcom Taxi portrayed by Andy Kaufman. A sweet-natured and lovable-but-goofy mechanic, Latka was based on a character Kaufman created known as Foreign Man.
If Latka collected coins he'd be the OP, without a sense of humor or self-awareness.
why would the southern bred use something celtic?
I just wish I knew his native tongue so I could google translate back at him
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Yes, I was a fan of the show, 'Taxi', I especially liked when Latka transformed into Vic...
POST NUBILA PHOEBUS / AFTER CLOUDS, SUN
Love for Music / Collector of Dreck
So what’s the address so I can help bring the stranded astronaut home. His story is heartbreaking. BTW, I’m still trying to solicit funds to search for the Minnow. I hear the crew is doing well but the professor is running low on coconuts for his radio. PM me for my gofundme account.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Funny how the silliest threads get the most attention.
The sad thing about this mess is that the relic looks like it could be linked Dr Hunter McGuire, who appears to be a civil war figure of some importance. I did a little bit of searching, and found his story to be interesting. Here is the Wiki summary
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_McGuire
However, the OP continues with this charade of insisting that the relic is some sort of heretofore unknown Confederate coin, even though it has nothing in common with coinage of the era. If he was able to do some serious research, or enlist the help of knowledgeable scholars, the relic might add a small piece to our understanding of the people and events of that significant period of our country's history.
The semi-coherant ramblings on his website do nothing to further the research on this piece, and may even be detrimental to understanding what significance the relic may have. I only hope that someday, it can be properly researched. What a shame.