This bust half has excellent luster for an AU coin. Is it possible it's UNC with a weak strike or maybe the luster is from a previous dip? Video can be found HERE. What are your thoughts?
It's not Unc, if that's what you are asking. There are minor wear points showing on the curls, the top of the drapery, on the reverse along the top of the shield, the claws, and most noticeably, the left facing wing on the reverse.
The strike, for what it's worth, is strong and well centered.
Also for what it's worth, the luster appears muted, especially for if you are thinking even high-end AU (55/58). Luster doesn't come from a previous dip, so based on your post you'll want to look into that thought process a little further.
A couple last items to consider are the surfaces appear less than original, and so does the color. It may or may not straight grade.
Just my thoughts and opinions.
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I think that it is an attractive coin that is just short of Mint State. The toning is not original but secondary toning that formed after the coin was dipped. In this case, the owner got lucky because the toning is attractive, at least to my eye.
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@pursuitofliberty said:
It's not Unc, if that's what you are asking. There are minor wear points showing on the curls, the top of the drapery, on the reverse along the top of the shield, the claws, and most noticeably, the left facing wing on the reverse.
The strike, for what it's worth, is strong and well centered.
Also for what it's worth, the luster appears muted, especially for if you are thinking even high-end AU (55/58). Luster doesn't come from a previous dip, so based on your post you'll want to look into that thought process a little further.
A couple last items to consider are the surfaces appear less than original, and so does the color. It may or may not straight grade.
Thank you for the feedback. When I compare this one to a MS example I have I think this one has better luster that really comes to life under light. However, I believe my MS example has the original skin that may be somewhat muting the luster were as this example may have been dipped at one point and then re-toned over time. I just wanted to see if others had similar thoughts. It's still an attractive coin in my opinion.
I'd try to get it graded. If it has original surfaces, no real impairment from cleaning, etc. it may straight grade. Not sure if it is a better Overton.
AU55 or 58. The stars are very sharp and are not starting to bleed into the rim (an early die state and one that I like.
It may have been cleaned at one time but has retoned rather nicely. I'm sure many collectors will like it. It would make a good album type coin.
A little concerned about the area between BUS UNIM and the eagle's neck.. appears possibly repaired but would want a close up straight and angled look at it.
from the pics, no luster exists. from the video, plenty to be found. if you grade it, post here please. i have my number but i'll keep it to myself this time.
@LanceNewmanOCC said:
from the pics, no luster exists. from the video, plenty to be found. if you grade it, post here please. i have my number but i'll keep it to myself this time.
From the pics, I see plenty of luster. In terms of wear, the coin looks AU55, though quite possibly an AU details grading result.
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Looks like AU58 details to me.
Lance.
That is a pretty coin with great luster! Does look like a little wear at the high points though. Hope it's a 58+
It's not Unc, if that's what you are asking. There are minor wear points showing on the curls, the top of the drapery, on the reverse along the top of the shield, the claws, and most noticeably, the left facing wing on the reverse.
The strike, for what it's worth, is strong and well centered.
Also for what it's worth, the luster appears muted, especially for if you are thinking even high-end AU (55/58). Luster doesn't come from a previous dip, so based on your post you'll want to look into that thought process a little further.
A couple last items to consider are the surfaces appear less than original, and so does the color. It may or may not straight grade.
Just my thoughts and opinions.
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I think that it is an attractive coin that is just short of Mint State. The toning is not original but secondary toning that formed after the coin was dipped. In this case, the owner got lucky because the toning is attractive, at least to my eye.
Excellent comments and observations.
The coin has the wear of an AU-58 and the surfaces do not look original.
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Thank you for the feedback. When I compare this one to a MS example I have I think this one has better luster that really comes to life under light. However, I believe my MS example has the original skin that may be somewhat muting the luster were as this example may have been dipped at one point and then re-toned over time. I just wanted to see if others had similar thoughts. It's still an attractive coin in my opinion.
I'd try to get it graded. If it has original surfaces, no real impairment from cleaning, etc. it may straight grade. Not sure if it is a better Overton.
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AU55 or 58. The stars are very sharp and are not starting to bleed into the rim (an early die state and one that I like.
It may have been cleaned at one time but has retoned rather nicely. I'm sure many collectors will like it. It would make a good album type coin.
A little concerned about the area between BUS UNIM and the eagle's neck.. appears possibly repaired but would want a close up straight and angled look at it.
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Nice bust half! High AU coin. Looks AU55.
from the pics, no luster exists. from the video, plenty to be found. if you grade it, post here please. i have my number but i'll keep it to myself this time.
From the pics, I see plenty of luster. In terms of wear, the coin looks AU55, though quite possibly an AU details grading result.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.