Perhaps some illiterate person wanted to sign his coin.
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This coin has graffiti and should not be straight graded.
The TPG's were started so you could buy a coin sight unseen and feel confident there were no issues
with the coin.
This coin has graffiti.
@MFeld said:
For anyone who cares to answer - do you think that if the “x” looks to have been intentionally made, it should lead to a different grading result than if it were the result of random circulation marks?
Intent is irrelevant. The coin is what it is, and should be evaluated as such.
I probably wouldn’t want this coin in my collection but the slab and glamour shots do look different. I think this is a coin that needs to be seen in hand or if you’re in a gambling mood go for it if you can get it on the cheap.
@ricko said:
The X on the neck is not casual or accidental, it is intentional....and in response to @MFeld... Yes, if intentional graffiti, it should be 'details' grade (IMO - but that is grading, opinions). This coin should not be straight graded. Cheers, RickO
Good to know you were there to watch somebody scratch it.
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@ricko said:
The X on the neck is not casual or accidental, it is intentional....and in response to @MFeld... Yes, if intentional graffiti, it should be 'details' grade (IMO - but that is grading, opinions). This coin should not be straight graded. Cheers, RickO
Good to know you were there to watch somebody scratch it.
When I consider buying a coin for myself, my opinion overrides that of PCGS. In this case, I wouldn't buy a coin they value at $8K with a big X on it no matter what the label says.
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Most barbers look like they were bagged and then thrown down a few flights of stairs, then put in a Whitman album with some gravel and frequently slid open. I’d like to see someone duplicate those scratches. Try it on a Franklin half, just for fun.
Tricky part: try scratching a coin without displacing metal enough to raise it on either side of the scratch.
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Perhaps some illiterate person wanted to sign his coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Bummer. Obvious graffiti, and it should NOT be straight graded IMO.
Dave
This coin has graffiti and should not be straight graded.
The TPG's were started so you could buy a coin sight unseen and feel confident there were no issues
with the coin.
This coin has graffiti.
Intent is irrelevant. The coin is what it is, and should be evaluated as such.
Man, this straight grades and my toned st gaudens doesn’t. Ugh
I probably wouldn’t want this coin in my collection but the slab and glamour shots do look different. I think this is a coin that needs to be seen in hand or if you’re in a gambling mood go for it if you can get it on the cheap.
It's hard to evaluate without seeing the coin in person. I'm with PCGS on the coin their graders know what they are doing.
Good to know you were there to watch somebody scratch it.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
All grades below 70 are net grades.
My net grade, based on the obverse, is lower than 55, but not much lower.
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Of course he was! He's older than you think!
When I consider buying a coin for myself, my opinion overrides that of PCGS. In this case, I wouldn't buy a coin they value at $8K with a big X on it no matter what the label says.
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
It straight graded because of the S, a Philly wouldn't have had a shot.
Most barbers look like they were bagged and then thrown down a few flights of stairs, then put in a Whitman album with some gravel and frequently slid open. I’d like to see someone duplicate those scratches. Try it on a Franklin half, just for fun.
Tricky part: try scratching a coin without displacing metal enough to raise it on either side of the scratch.