Are they keeping the original designs ?
Or are they going to modify them, for artistic reasons ? Which will probably lead to a lesser-quality design.
I'm in if the Peace Dollar if it is original in HIgh Relief.
I'm NOT a real big fan of the Xmas-hatted Morgan dollar. I know it's NOT, it's phrygian.
But still, it reminds me of Xmas.
My guess is they’ll treat these two designs, if the bill gets signed, like the 2009 Ultra High Relief Saint. They have the technology and a collector base who will pay a premium so there’s no reason for them to not do it right. The only problems, IMO, is that the silver won’t look quite right if they don’t use 90% and the surface finish won’t look anything like the originals.
Given they'll do it in .999 silver the coins just won't look right. Even if they go through the effort to ensure the same relief and curvature of the fields it just won't look right. I know all the reasons they won't go 0.900 but it should be. I thought the same with the centennial gold coins of 2016. They should have been in 0.900 fine and have had silver counterparts made to go with it in 0.900.
Yes, trust the US Mint to provide us with ????????????
I'm sorry folks but I will not be holding my breath on this one. If there is one thing wrong with our Mint it's imagination. Both the lack of and too much of. Just my thoughts on the subject and I do hope people will not be disappointed.
Total mintage of 1,921 of each design to be sold at the bottom of the Grand Canyon at 3:13 A.M. on April 1st!
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@CaptHenway said:
Total mintage of 1,921 of each design to be sold at the bottom of the Grand Canyon at 3:13 A.M. on April 1st!
The only way to get down there is to BASE jump. Are you down for this Captain? Low altitude, high risk, basically pulling the chute as soon as you jump
@7Jaguars said:
I would hope they have a limited order TIME PERIOD, and not limited numbers....
would really love if they started doing this, but see it so rarely done, even across all world mints - the modern dutch gold ducats are the only ones im aware of that have an ordering period after which that number of coins is minted
@CaptHenway said:
Total mintage of 1,921 of each design to be sold at the bottom of the Grand Canyon at 3:13 A.M. on April 1st!
The only way to get down there is to BASE jump. Are you down for this Captain? Low altitude, high risk, basically pulling the chute as soon as you jump
Would you be able to pay people to BASE jump for you
@7Jaguars said:
I would hope they have a limited order TIME PERIOD, and not limited numbers....
Agree and it should be measured in days rather than in minutes.
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@CoinHoarder said:
Does anybody know if these will be limited mintage coins?
If so, it will probably be another 10 minute sellout.
They would be stupid not to mint to demand. Perhaps we may see an overcorrection for the v75 program which results in a glut of 2021 Morgan and Peace Dollars.
@CoinHoarder said:
Does anybody know if these will be limited mintage coins?
“SEC. 7. Financial assurances.
The Secretary of the Treasury shall take such actions as may be necessary to ensure that the minting and issuing of coins under the Act will not result in any net cost to the United States Government.”
That means hundreds of thousands of coins Or prices will be out the roof...
You will have P, D and S and Probably privy marks for CC and O. Morgan and Peace. That's hundreds of thousand in Total...
The TV hucksters have already grabbed this one. My wife was channel scrolling the other day and caught a program that was advance selling these. With all the hoopla about historical coin, rarity, great value, etc.... only listened for a couple of minutes - then took some Tums and went back to what I was doing. Cheers, RickO
Why even give them such an idea? Are you a masochist? Or maybe a sadist to force me to get one for my gold set? Or both?
Silver would be perfect. But thinking of the mint and how they've done tribute coins in the past....it's just like them to do something like that.
I blame @Rarity , he mentioned these in palladium and gave me the idea.
Then there's the mintage amounts that could be too small too as put forth by the Capt...
@CaptHenway said:
Total mintage of 1,921 of each design to be sold at the bottom of the Grand Canyon at 3:13 A.M. on April 1st!
Naw....it'll just be silver and a mintage of 500,000.
@golden said:
This is something in which I have no interest.
Thank you for sharing that with us.
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Are they keeping the original designs ?
Or are they going to modify them, for artistic reasons ? Which will probably lead to a lesser-quality design.
I'm in if the Peace Dollar if it is original in HIgh Relief.
I'm NOT a real big fan of the Xmas-hatted Morgan dollar. I know it's NOT, it's phrygian.
But still, it reminds me of Xmas.
Also, I hope they're 99.999 % silver.
Chris
My guess is they’ll treat these two designs, if the bill gets signed, like the 2009 Ultra High Relief Saint. They have the technology and a collector base who will pay a premium so there’s no reason for them to not do it right. The only problems, IMO, is that the silver won’t look quite right if they don’t use 90% and the surface finish won’t look anything like the originals.
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Still at least I can get a MS69 Morgan Dollar at an affordable price!
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Given they'll do it in .999 silver the coins just won't look right. Even if they go through the effort to ensure the same relief and curvature of the fields it just won't look right. I know all the reasons they won't go 0.900 but it should be. I thought the same with the centennial gold coins of 2016. They should have been in 0.900 fine and have had silver counterparts made to go with it in 0.900.
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Glad to see our congress is still hard at work passing coin authorization bills in the times of the great pandemic.
Now if we could just get another round of stimulus checks so we can purchase them with house $$$. Lulz
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Yes, trust the US Mint to provide us with ????????????
I'm sorry folks but I will not be holding my breath on this one. If there is one thing wrong with our Mint it's imagination. Both the lack of and too much of. Just my thoughts on the subject and I do hope people will not be disappointed.
Total mintage of 1,921 of each design to be sold at the bottom of the Grand Canyon at 3:13 A.M. on April 1st!
Don’t forget:
Looks like we will all have to make our burro reservations to get us to the bottom of the canyon.
Already on backorder and it hasn't even gone through the Senate.
The only way to get down there is to BASE jump. Are you down for this Captain? Low altitude, high risk, basically pulling the chute as soon as you jump
Hmmmm, one ounce silver legal tender. Can we get a $100 face value on these?😁
I would hope they have a limited order TIME PERIOD, and not limited numbers....
Well, just Love coins, period.
would really love if they started doing this, but see it so rarely done, even across all world mints - the modern dutch gold ducats are the only ones im aware of that have an ordering period after which that number of coins is minted
Aren't you aiming a bit low
Would you be able to pay people to BASE jump for you
Agree and it should be measured in days rather than in minutes.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Less than 2 minutes for the V75 gold!
Does anybody know if these will be limited mintage coins?
If so, it will probably be another 10 minute sellout.
Not really given there are very few MS69 Morgans in the original series.
They would be stupid not to mint to demand. Perhaps we may see an overcorrection for the v75 program which results in a glut of 2021 Morgan and Peace Dollars.
The Secretary of the Treasury shall take such actions as may be necessary to ensure that the minting and issuing of coins under the Act will not result in any net cost to the United States Government.”
That means hundreds of thousands of coins Or prices will be out the roof...
You will have P, D and S and Probably privy marks for CC and O. Morgan and Peace. That's hundreds of thousand in Total...
Uh, that would be to demand for a LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME (ie days, like 3-4 or so) with HHL - not that the latter does much good....
Well, just Love coins, period.
the mint regularly puts out MS/PR coins in 70s
69 is an undesirable grade for a modern.
Oh I know, but the MS69 Morgans out there in the original series are a lot of money. That's my point.
The TV hucksters have already grabbed this one. My wife was channel scrolling the other day and caught a program that was advance selling these. With all the hoopla about historical coin, rarity, great value, etc.... only listened for a couple of minutes - then took some Tums and went back to what I was doing. Cheers, RickO
OMG
I'm shut out again
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The Senate vote was unanimous.
I'm taking a minute to smile about that in this dark winter.
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Please do not coin the 2021HR Peace dollar in palladium.
I mean, I'd buy one ... 😏
Will there be a gold version?
Why even give them such an idea? Are you a masochist? Or maybe a sadist to force me to get one for my gold set? Or both?
These have to be silver only, please, they will already have too many old and new gold eagle reverse variations to even imagine.
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Silver would be perfect. But thinking of the mint and how they've done tribute coins in the past....it's just like them to do something like that.
I blame @Rarity , he mentioned these in palladium and gave me the idea.
Then there's the mintage amounts that could be too small too as put forth by the Capt...
Naw....it'll just be silver and a mintage of 500,000.
Domestic Peace Dollar sounds like a great idea. Well done Gov!
This is something in which I have no interest.
Thank you for sharing that with us.
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Surprising the number of mints and varieties the 2021 Morgan's that will be produced.
Does that mean the Philadelphia Mint will produce 2021 Morgan dollars with "CC" and "O" mint marks?
Or will the privy be something different from a mint mark?
Either way, I think it's likely to mislead folks to believe these coins were produced at Carson City and New Orleans.
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