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1927-S 2 Feather Buffalo Nickel?

FHCFHC Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

So i was looking some Buffalo nickels today and found this one. Is this a 2 feather variety buffalo nickel?




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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 30, 2020 4:53PM

    That's a 2 1/2 feather, as all of this date are. None of the so called 2 feathers for the 1927-S are true 2 feathers.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree.... 2 1/2 feather....Not fully abraded. Cheers, RickO

  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No like conquest above I would call it a 2 and one half feather. If there is even a “crumb” of the missing feather
    still visible as this one has I give it a 2 and one half feather !

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool find. B)

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  • FHCFHC Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    Is there any premium for a 2-1/2 feather or just the the 2 feather?

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too have a 1916p questionable 2 Feather or 2 1/2 F. ?


    Not like my sure 2 Feather 1918p

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think that's "gone enough" to qualify as a true 2 feather.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting Buffalo........................................Nice find whatever it is called :)

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:
    I too have a 1916p questionable 2 Feather or 2 1/2 F. ?

    You should show some courtesy and refrain from posting photos of your coins in relation to the OP's question.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh, sure!

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  • FHCFHC Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I too have a 1916p questionable 2 Feather or 2 1/2 F. ?

    You should show some courtesy and refrain from posting photos of your coins in relation to the OP's question.

    It's fine with me. It gives me some photos to go off of for future reference.

  • FHCFHC Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    Here are some full coin photos. I cut off part of the obverse trying to get a closer photo of the area in question.


  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a list of the known dates/Mints that have a true two feather variety, where the feather is COMPLETELY or VERY NEARLY effaced. Any date/Mint not listed here is a 2 1/2 feather variety, in spite of how it's attributed when slabbed. The rarest dates below are the 1915-D, 1916-S, and especially the 1923.

    TRUE 2F VAR # DATE/MINT
    01 1913-D VAR 1
    02 1913-S VAR 1
    03 1915
    04 1915-D
    05 1916
    06 1916-S
    07 1917
    08 1917-S
    09 1918
    10 1918-S
    11 1919
    12 1920
    13 1920-S
    14 1921
    15 1921-S
    16 1923
    17 1925-S
    18 1926-D
    19 1929-S
    20 1930-S

  • FHCFHC Posts: 323 ✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Here's a list of the known dates/Mints that have a true two feather variety, where the feather is COMPLETELY or VERY NEARLY effaced. Any date/Mint not listed here is a 2 1/2 feather variety, in spite of how it's attributed when slabbed. The rarest dates below are the 1915-D, 1916-S, and especially the 1923.

    TRUE 2F VAR # DATE/MINT
    01 1913-D VAR 1
    02 1913-S VAR 1
    03 1915
    04 1915-D
    05 1916
    06 1916-S
    07 1917
    08 1917-S
    09 1918
    10 1918-S
    11 1919
    12 1920
    13 1920-S
    14 1921
    15 1921-S
    16 1923
    17 1925-S
    18 1926-D
    19 1929-S
    20 1930-S

    Thanks for the list, and all of the information. So what kind of premium does my coin carry?

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Considering the low grade and damage and the fact that it's a 2 1/2 feather probably none.

  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As stated already, yours 27-s is not a true two feather, but is what passes for this date. The 27-s doesn’t come as true two feather.

    I also concur no premium give wear and damage. Even for examples that do get attributed, this date is rather uninspiring relative to true two feathers and tend to go for less (at least my take on it)

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My take on it too, Alain.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 14,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 31, 2020 9:27PM

    @FHC said:

    @gonzer said:

    @joeykoins said:
    I too have a 1916p questionable 2 Feather or 2 1/2 F. ?

    You should show some courtesy and refrain from posting photos of your coins in relation to the OP's question.

    It's fine with me. It gives me some photos to go off of for future reference.

    Hey, gonzer, did you see what the OP posted?
    Thanks FHC. :)

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,568 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    Here's a list of the known dates/Mints that have a true two feather variety, where the feather is COMPLETELY or VERY NEARLY effaced. Any date/Mint not listed here is a 2 1/2 feather variety, in spite of how it's attributed when slabbed. The rarest dates below are the 1915-D, 1916-S, and especially the 1923.

    TRUE 2F VAR # DATE/MINT
    01 1913-D VAR 1
    02 1913-S VAR 1
    03 1915
    04 1915-D
    05 1916
    06 1916-S
    07 1917
    08 1917-S
    09 1918
    10 1918-S
    11 1919
    12 1920
    13 1920-S
    14 1921
    15 1921-S
    16 1923
    17 1925-S
    18 1926-D
    19 1929-S
    20 1930-S

    Other side of the coin, what would you say are the most common dates (and I assume the least likely to carry a premium). In my experience intermittently cherrypicking these, the 1916, 1921, and 1921-S are the ones I saw the most.

    Also I recall the 13-S Type I being one of the rarest dates, have more been found recently to change that?

    Thanks for the informative thread.

    Sean

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sean-

    You are correct about the three most common dates. You can add the 1925-S to the list. At least three different dies are all 2 feather dies, which probably accounts for it's common status. I would say that the 1916 is the most common, followed by the 1925-S and 1921.

    A number of the 1913-S have been found and it's not as rare as it was several years ago tho it remains as one of the tougher dates to locate.

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