Aren't fakes struck from dies that were cast off original coins? Can't imagine actually casting a coin that would look anything much like a real one. Hot metal usually does not do what you want it to and you would end up with a pretty poor looking coin. But then if the counterfeiter cast a die from the real deal and cleaned the die up considerably it would then strike a coin that might be passable. That's what I think, probably wrong and Mark will correct me for sure.
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@PerryHall said:
It's hard to tell whether it's cast or struck since most struck counterfeits are struck from dies that have been cast from a genuine host coin.
This. You get much higher quality counterfeits this way. Including this piece.
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The surfaces look very grainy and it has absolutely no luster halo which are things a struck coin would lack, and have, respectively. (Not counting coins struck from rusted dies like many 25-s peace)
Cast. It has grainy surfaces plus a lack of overall detail say cast to me. The "s" mint mark looks like it was strengthened.
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It's hard to tell whether it's cast or struck since most struck counterfeits are struck from dies that have been cast from a genuine host coin.
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What @PerryHall said.
cast.
With those incuse spots and the grainy surfaces, I would lean to cast .... Cheers, RickO
Looks like cast bubbles.
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Aren't fakes struck from dies that were cast off original coins? Can't imagine actually casting a coin that would look anything much like a real one. Hot metal usually does not do what you want it to and you would end up with a pretty poor looking coin. But then if the counterfeiter cast a die from the real deal and cleaned the die up considerably it would then strike a coin that might be passable. That's what I think, probably wrong and Mark will correct me for sure.
bob
This. You get much higher quality counterfeits this way. Including this piece.
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The surfaces look very grainy and it has absolutely no luster halo which are things a struck coin would lack, and have, respectively. (Not counting coins struck from rusted dies like many 25-s peace)
Cast. It has grainy surfaces plus a lack of overall detail say cast to me. The "s" mint mark looks like it was strengthened.
surfaces scream cast to me.
The air bubble on her left arm, makes me think it is cast.
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if you have the coin, cast will have a problem with the reeding somewhere. This coin looks like problems near 3 o'clock.
I go.back and forth.
That pit on her arm is confusing. Either a casting bubble or debris that was struck in and then fell off.
The third side of the coin will tell the story.