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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @mannie gray said:
    Well, like any group of human beings, 80% will be "ok"; 10% will be extremely honest and ethical; 10% will not be.
    I have run into all kinds in this business...from mentors who were selfless with their time with me when I was just a stupid kid and imparted great knowledge to me.....and the dishonest shysters and crooks who tried (successfully a few times, I must admit) to fleece me.
    Oh, the stories I could tell....and I am a relatively minor player (I refer to myself as a catfish in the coin business) but I have been around a good many years.

    Wow. You've met a lot of nice people. My perception and experience is that 25% of people are intentionally/actively looking to cheat/lie/steal/hurt you, 60% will stab you in the back opportunistically, 10% are okay, and only 5% are truly caring, empathetic, and honest people.

    Maybe I have just been lucky.... :)

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did the person state t> @mannie gray said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @mannie gray said:
    Well, like any group of human beings, 80% will be "ok"; 10% will be extremely honest and ethical; 10% will not be.
    I have run into all kinds in this business...from mentors who were selfless with their time with me when I was just a stupid kid and imparted great knowledge to me.....and the dishonest shysters and crooks who tried (successfully a few times, I must admit) to fleece me.
    Oh, the stories I could tell....and I am a relatively minor player (I refer to myself as a catfish in the coin business) but I have been around a good many years.

    Wow. You've met a lot of nice people. My perception and experience is that 25% of people are intentionally/actively looking to cheat/lie/steal/hurt you, 60% will stab you in the back opportunistically, 10% are okay, and only 5% are truly caring, empathetic, and honest people.

    Maybe I have just been lucky.... :)

    Same. I think you tend to find what you seek.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It seems to me if I worked at a TPG and I had a high position in the grading department there would be a conflict of interests if I was submitting my own coins to the company I worked for.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    It seems to me if I worked at a TPG and I had a high position in the grading department there would be a conflict of interests if I was submitting my own coins to the company I worked for.

    This guy was already let go by NGC

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:
    It seems to me if I worked at a TPG and I had a high position in the grading department there would be a conflict of interests if I was submitting my own coins to the company I worked for.

    I think it would be OK if 1) There was a policy of the grading company that allowed it; 2) the submitter was completely anonymous; 3) the submitter had no involvement in the grading process.
    Objections?

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So the hobbies full of crooks

    the "Hobby" may not be full of crooks but there are a number of dishonest collectors and dealers, why would anyone deny that??

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @skier07 said:
    It seems to me if I worked at a TPG and I had a high position in the grading department there would be a conflict of interests if I was submitting my own coins to the company I worked for.

    I think it would be OK if 1) There was a policy of the grading company that allowed it; 2) the submitter was completely anonymous; 3) the submitter had no involvement in the grading process.
    Objections?

    I would have no objections.

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