Have you crossed coins to PCGS after one or more failures?
Proofmorgan
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If so, how many attempts? Did anything change along the way?
Collector of Original Early Gold with beginnings in Proof Morgan collecting.
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I have one coin that took, 4 or 5 tries. Several others 2-3. They all deserved to be in the holders with the grades that they ended up in but for whatever reason it took a couple of tries to get the there.
2 tries
4 tries
This crossed at grade (64), next submission a plus, next submission a 65
3 tries
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@Boosibri... Those are really nice coins and great photographs. Cheers, RickO
@Boosibri Nice! If I may ask, how long ago did you submit them and how far apart were the different "tries"?
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Generally over the course of 3-6 months and these are all within the last 2-3 years. Often I would leave the coins (like the 1735 8 escudos) with a dealer to submit at each show so I wasn't paying shipping nor having a $50,000 coin in the mail constantly.
The Argentina 4R is the finest graded of any date (likely not finest known) and I just got it back a few weeks ago from the cross over special. Second try with the special for that coin.
As far as anecdotal results, I would say 75% of my coins cross over first time. 15-20% cross after a few tries with the higher the value or higher the grade making it even more difficult, and a very small percentage (I can recall only one coin), which PCGS wouldn't cross at the grade I deemed it to be graded. As a note, the 75-85% reflects my assertion of minimum grade. The vast majority of the time it is cross at grade, but sometimes I know the coin is a minus coin for the grade and I would prefer it to be a plus coin at a grade level down, so I down cross.
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I have four coin world "express" cross over in right now, Day 13 at "Received". All coins are solid for the grade and condition census if not finest extant. I would guess 3 of 4 cross with the AU58 being the one which they may hold back but crosses on the second try.
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Interesting stuff, thanks! It seems there is a real strategy to grading high end coins. At first I though maybe the different grades could be because grading standards have changed over the years, but it sounds more like it's just different graders opinions (even though I know multiple graders see the coin each time).
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I think it is also the set up of the submission. If you send a good coin in with a bunch of marginal coins, I tend to think the good coins gets a negative bias. Vice versa, send a marginal coin in with a load of super solid coins, I think the marginal might coast by on the back of the stronger coins.
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This one is at PCGS as we speak. It is the third attempt.
I have had 2 coins cross on first attempt.
2 other took between 3 and 4 tries.
Best of luck! Seems like a solid for the grade coin and a tough tough date.
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Yes. I emailed them and told them they were wrong. It crossed.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
Wish I could emailed PCGS and told them they I thought they were wrong on a couple dozen gem seated coins that were fine at NGC and stickered as well.
Best example I have is a currently finest known O mint seated dime for it's respective date.
1988 NGC MS65.....would not 65 at PCGS....considered the finest known at that time.
1997 upgraded to NGC MS66.....would not cross to 66 at PCGS
between 2008-2017 or so - finally crosses to PCGS MS66....no idea how many times that might taken. (CAC)
2018 or so - upgrades to PCGS MS66+......still considered the finest known/graded.
Are you cracking out any of your coins?
Walking through now. Due today.
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@Boosibri
A vice is a lot easier.
Was just a random screwdriver in the picture from fixing a knob.
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I have about 5 to 10 coins that I tried 2 times only one coin got cross on second try. It was in NGC AU details. first try came back as Authentication unverified then second time crossed as au Details. The rest pretty much stays the same result. I have 17 coins are in QA right now. I should know the result next week. I will send in couple more this week.
@Boosibri ,
Very nice coins.