When common error coins become rare

MWallace

A straight clip and curved clip on the same coin. Each error by themselves is one of the most common errors there is, but not often found on the same coin. This coin exhibits a great Blakesly effect for each clip.

TurtleCat

Pretty neat! I wonder what percent of errors made actually make it into mint bags? Although I’m still wondering how certain errors like die caps and such make it out.

FredWeinberg

Mike, those 'mixed clip type' errors are much much
rarer than most folks realize.

That's a nice example, and it's silver to boot !

MWallace

Thank you.

mannie gray

Very cool....and as Fred noted, very rare.

JBK

A somewhat unassuming error at first glance, until you figure out what happened and try to calculate the odds.

scubafuel

This has the look of a damaged coin to me. The clip edges look unusual and the flattening on the opposite rims (blakesly) makes the coin look noticeably out of round in a way that I can’t remember seeing before. However it may be fine after an in hand look.

FredWeinberg

Not all Blakesley Effects are equal -

This dime has two good 'flair outs' opposite
each clip - especially the the straight end clip.

LanceNewmanOCC

@FredWeinberg said:
Not all Blakesley Effects are equal -

This dime has two good 'flair outs' opposite
each clip - especially the the straight end clip.

i've been thinking about clips recently. i was previously under the impression these happened pre-strike. when the flans are being punched from stock.

it is hard for me to picture, even with the billions of coins and possible flips/stacks etc that happen near the hammer/anvil/collar, that this sort of thing can be done randomly.

thoughts?

FredWeinberg

'clips' are actually Incomplete Blanks when they're first punched
out of the strip - the inside of the 'clip' will show the 'cut and tear'
marks, but it's not till the Type 1 Blank goes thru the Upsetting
Machine to get the upset rim that they become Type 2 Planchets,
and also get the Blakesley Effect opposite the clipped area.

(two of the first three authentication points)

When struck, you'll see at least some metal flow outward towards
the clipped area. (third authentication point).

They are in fact produced quite randomly, based on how the
long planchet strip was mis-fed, causing the 'clips'; not sure
what you mean by 'possible flips/stacks that happen near the
(die) hammer/anvil/collar that this sort of thing can be done randomly'....?

LanceNewmanOCC

@FredWeinberg said

They are in fact produced quite randomly, based on how the
long planchet strip was mis-fed, causing the 'clips'; not sure
what you mean by 'possible flips/stacks that happen near the
(die) hammer/anvil/collar that this sort of thing can be done randomly'....?

i can't guarantee that the hammer die doesn't come down on a coin and clip it somehow. it didn't seem to make sense to me that any clips would happen from the dies. so i was thinking of variations that would allow coin(s) to be in such a position stacked/leaning etc that could result in the coin dies creating a clip of some sort vs the flan punch from stock.

Jimnight

Nice error!

JBK

I have a clip or nick that occurred in the striking chamber. I am trying to locate it so I can post pictures.

seanq

Very cool, Mike, I think I remember that coin from your old informational page on clips.

I just picked up a modern Mexican coin with a straight clip and overlapping curved clips,

Sean Reynolds

ricko

Nice dime and example of clips.... really rare on the same coin. Thanks @FredWeinberg for the clip explanation. Cheers, RickO

Mr Lindy

Bumpity bump for an awesome error !

sellitstore

You got Fred's attention (and comments).

It's a good one.

Zoins

It looks like a triple clip to me!

What's going on at 9:30 and 12:00 on the reverse?

Here's one that I recently posted:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1055894/a-most-interesting-almost-coin#latest

MWallace

@Zoins said:
It looks like a triple clip to me!

What's going on at 9:30 and 12:00 on the reverse?

Here's one that I recently posted:

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1055894/a-most-interesting-almost-coin#latest

That's part of the very strong Blakesly effect on the coin.

USSID17

And it's even silver!!

joeykoins

Nice coin.
Yes, when a common coin becomes a near rarity is when the coin has an error on it. Think of it, how many of any particular errors are made similar? Not too many. Example.
My recent acquisition of my error coin.
The 2021s "Strike through ". Esp. In the grade it came back, MS 67. Let alone the exact position of my strike through on another coin. Not very likely.