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The year was 1980....will that height be seen again for silver?

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,866 ✭✭✭✭✭


Close of 1980 was not so good, eh?


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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    IMO ... Easy.

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Adjust that $49.45 in 1980 $$$ for inflation.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Adjust that $49.45 in 1980 $$$ for inflation.

    Whoa, great point!!!!!!

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 6, 2020 5:56PM

    Actually the all time high for silver was set on April 28, 2011 @ $49.51 per oz. I remember it well.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-silver-record-idUSTRE73R55520110428

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too lazy to determine the accuracy of this calculator but $154.71 in today's dollars. I'll take it. lol

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    😎

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well... I think this PM roller coaster still has a way to go... so hold on, going to be fun for a while. Cheers, RickO

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,858 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not this year.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,215 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2020 7:39AM

    1980 high was the result of attempt to corner the supply of silver by the Hunt brothers. Their buying drove the price up. One time event. Rules put in place after the fact to prosecute them or anyone who attempts to do so in the future.

    When silver breaks that record it will be for very different reasons. Reasons will be similar to what was caused 2010 high: central bank mismanagement.

    Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt

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    LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 14, 2020 7:50AM

    I vote higher but am bias cause I like shiney stuff...
    As @ricko said, this roller coaster is just getting going so buckle your seatbelt dorthy...

    It's all about what the people want...

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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Copper mines out put effect Silver supplies in a big way as a by product of Copper mining. My crystal ball shows Silver trending higher.

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i was too young to remember, my dad said he sold some silver in 1980

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    isaiah58isaiah58 Posts: 385 ✭✭✭

    I purchased silver aggressively in 2011 through about $24 into 2012. Before that I had some, mostly vintage bars and rounds, a 1 kilo round my father gave me, and assorted collectible sets like when the Skins won the SB in 92. Just before it peeked, I sold everything I could find around $47, even sold any gold I could find including all jewelry.

    Silver detached, we barley got to 70:1 this time.
    1980 was about 17:1
    2012 was about 35:1

    Outside of playing paper silver during a run up, gold has become the best form to hold long term and preserve value.

    From my perspective, silver was best to stack when it was available to buy physical, pre-covid, at close to $18 and under.

    I do not see how silver will cover the current premiums to make it worth stacking right now or any time in the near future.

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    HarlequinHarlequin Posts: 110 ✭✭✭

    @OPA said:
    Actually the all time high for silver was set on April 28, 2011 @ $49.51 per oz. I remember it well.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-silver-record-idUSTRE73R55520110428

    I remember it also, I made a nice profit on my 150 ASE purchased at $16 an oz!

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    harlequinnumismatic@gmail.com

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    WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    1980 high was the result of attempt to corner the supply of silver by the Hunt brothers. Their buying drove the price up. One time event. Rules put in place after the fact to prosecute them or anyone who attempts to do so in the future.

    When silver breaks that record it will be for very different reasons. Reasons will be similar to what was caused 2010 high: central bank mismanagement.

    And what was the 2010 high price?

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    And what was the 2010 high price?

    $30.98. High in 2011 was 49.82.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    SoldiSoldi Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a friend who didn't like coin dealers. WGY coin offered him $54 per coin for a 2 ounce "one hundred greatest masterpieces by Franklin Mint, back in 1980. He said; Pooh to that offer. He sucked on those 100 two ounce coins until about 2011 or so. He got offered $54 per coin again by a dealer. He jumped on it. He felt good about his deal.

    LOST ........Opportunity Cost for 31 years????????? Off the hook, lest you could graph it for me. The End

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    1980 high was the result of attempt to corner the supply of silver by the Hunt brothers. Their buying drove the price up. One time event. Rules put in place after the fact to prosecute them or anyone who attempts to do so in the future.

    When silver breaks that record it will be for very different reasons. Reasons will be similar to what was caused 2010 high: central bank mismanagement.

    2011 was an attempt by JPM to artificially inflate the silver market just like the Hunts did in 1980. It remains to be seen how high those that are manipulating this go round can make it go. Hopefully they can get it to 1980/2011 levels before the collapse. Without manipulators silver is a $5-$15/oz gutter metal.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,382 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’d buy all the silver you have for your $10/oz. gutter metal average price. Offer good for the next 24 hours. Let me know!

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmski52 said:
    I’d buy all the silver you have for your $10/oz. gutter metal average price. Offer good for the next 24 hours. Let me know!

    Thanks for the offer but the plan is to sell it into the current pump.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:
    Too lazy to determine the accuracy of this calculator but $154.71 in today's dollars. I'll take it. lol

    Some people are already paying $100 for pf70 in special plastic. They are already paying 40 for raw libertad, maple. $50 ms70 cutesy plastic. Aus, UK, Canadian commems are all super hot. SP70 silver krugs are just breathtaking profits.

    Anyway, if its gonna tank, I hope it does so I can't imagine my excitement for these metals lapsing at all during this pandemic. What's happening right now is literally the stuff Hollywood makes horror movies about. It's the stuff you were warned about in history class as a kid. It's the stuff people use as examples when teaching you hygiene and public health awareness.

    As gold gets higher, people who delayed buying it (and are now running out of resources) wont be able to get in on gold will buy silver. Sure it's not gold, but it can be transported easy, has recognizable US symbols, and who would turn it down in a trade?

    Meanwhile, in Turkey:

    https://www.helleniscope.com/2020/08/16/in-turkey-locals-sell-their-cars-and-houses-to-buy-gold-while-lira-implodes/

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Exactly I plan to exit the gutter just south of $154.71, not interested in $10 except maybe paper silver buy back in price. Good luck!

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    At least legos have held value.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    At least legos have held value.

    more likely the currency they are priced in has lost value

    Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt

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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Azurescens said:

    @blitzdude said:
    Too lazy to determine the accuracy of this calculator but $154.71 in today's dollars. I'll take it. lol

    Some people are already paying $100 for pf70 in special plastic. They are already paying 40 for raw libertad, maple. $50 ms70 cutesy plastic. Aus, UK, Canadian commems are all super hot. SP70 silver krugs are just breathtaking profits.

    >

    Sounds like a bunch of bagholder "collector/investors" burying themselves in overpriced common crap for another generation.

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    WQuarterFreddieWQuarterFreddie Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @WQuarterFreddie said:

    And what was the 2010 high price?

    $30.98. High in 2011 was 49.82.

    Thank you!

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    At least legos have held value.

    more likely the currency they are priced in has lost value

    Outperformed silver.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    At least legos have held value.

    more likely the currency they are priced in has lost value

    Outperformed silver.

    maybe yours, but not mine.

    Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 16, 2020 6:59PM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    At least legos have held value.

    more likely the currency they are priced in has lost value

    Outperformed silver.

    maybe yours, but not mine.

    Well, because you are God and all your silver has a zero cost basis.

    Since 1980, which is the refrrence of this thread, legos have held value better than silver. Keep on topic derryb.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    derrybderryb Posts: 36,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You stack the legos, I'll stick with the silver. LOL

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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 960 ✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    Since 1980, which is the refrrence of this thread, legos have held value better than silver. Keep on topic derryb.

    Actually, no. The retail price of Legos has held - which is a reflection of the price set by the company and margin of the retailer. You would need to do an analysis of Legos in the secondary market to determine how well they held their value.

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, actually, the chart i posted above shows one would need 10c to buy a lego in 1980--same as today.

    Yet, it cost $40 to buy an ounce of silver in 1980 vs $27 today.

    However, if you wish to peruse Ebay you will see that many lego sets have appreciated considerably since 1980 while silver has depreciated. I was trying to be kind and not expose this fact, but since you brought it up.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pawn shops buy and sell legos by the pound

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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 960 ✭✭✭✭

    All that shows is Lego's parent company has no pricing power - and lowered their cost of production.

    Why you are perusing eBay look for those silver items that have appreciated considerably since 1980 - I sold a 2 oz bar for $350...

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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @taxmad said:
    All that shows is Lego's parent company has no pricing power - and lowered their cost of production.

    What it shows is that it takes fewer dollars today to buy silver than in 1980. While same cant be said about legos

    BTW---i bought a nickel for a buck and sold it on Ebay for $20. I bested your return and only took me a week. So there. Lol

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    taxmadtaxmad Posts: 960 ✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @taxmad said:
    All that shows is Lego's parent company has no pricing power - and lowered their cost of production.

    What it shows is that it takes fewer dollars today to buy silver than in 1980. While same cant be said about legos

    BTW---i bought a nickel for a buck and sold it on Ebay for $20. I bested your return and only took me a week. So there. Lol

    Well - in 2013 anyway.... and as I said, I could get more for my 'used' silver than I could for my used legos...

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    isaiah58isaiah58 Posts: 385 ✭✭✭

    Coca Cola 1oz silver rounds and bars have actively sold (been collected) and $40 each and higher when silver was stagnant at $15. Many "collector" silver widgets trade at large premiums.

    As far as LEGOs go. Let's put real numbers together. Let's go with 1964 and older generic US coinage. The majority of Lego's are circulated. The majority off collectors will not purchase old used Lego's for a premium, just the few well preserved sets that people stored away. On fleaBay collectors pay heavy premiums for uncirculated pre- '65 US coins on top of small premiums for all others regardless of wear. All silver has maintained stored value. Legos do not, but can be stored none the less.

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    blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    You stack the legos, I'll stick with the silver. LOL

    Legos? Did someone say Legos?

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.

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    rte592rte592 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    You stack the legos, I'll stick with the silver. LOL

    Legos? Did someone say Legos?

    I wanted one of those but, DANG the premium my G&S store wanted was nuts.

    In my real world experience, silver hands down over legos.

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