Two questions on a Merc. Dime?

joeykoins

Hi guy's, curious on this 1939p Merc. One, would this pass as a FB? and second question, about this mark or crack on the reverse at 4:00? Anyone know what it can be? I do know of this date having some DD variety of the Obverse, but the reverse? Thanks guy's.

Hydrant

I'm not qualified to answer your questions.......but....oh, by golly you do have good photography skills!

airplanenut

The middle bands aren't fully split, and the coin wouldn't be FB. The 4:00 mark could just be a die crack, but I can't see it well enough to see if it would be something else. As for the date, I don't see any doubling there.

MFeld

Only the middle set of bands is relevant for the “FB” designation and in this case, the bands aren’t even close.

pursuitofliberty

Not FB ... needs to have full separation all the way across the center bands. Hammered ones will look like the picture you took of the lower bands

Die cracks are fairly common with this series actually, usually from the rim extending into the letters or into the headdress.

I think that is what you are referring to on the obverse at 2 o'clock (not reverse at 4), which appears to be a very small and early die crack

joeykoins

Thanks guy's!

joeykoins

@pursuitofliberty said:

I think that is what you are referring to on the obverse at 2 o'clock (not reverse at 4), which appears to be a very small and early die crack

yeah, you're right! Not the reverse but the Obverse. and yes, 2;00, not 4;00. Thanks. Getting OLD.Lol

ricko

No DD, no FB and the anomaly appears to be a small die crack... need better pictures of that issue. Cheers, RickO

keyman64

Not the DDO FS-101 or any of the others known. Not FB. Obv Die Crack is very common on Mercs.

As far as the FS-101, I own the Top Pop that is tied with one other, a MS67FB example that I cherrypicked about 6-8 weeks ago. I have also previously cherrypicked two non-FB Top Pop MS67 examples that I previously sold.

If you would like to view the different DDOs for the date:
http://varietyvista.com/06 Mercury Dime/DDOs 1939.htm

joeykoins

@keyman64 said:
Not the DDO FS-101 or any of the others known. Not FB. Obv Die Crack is very common on Mercs.

As far as the FS-101, I own the Top Pop that is tied with one other, a MS67FB example that I cherrypicked about 6-8 weeks ago. I have also previously cherrypicked two non-FB Top Pop MS67 examples that I previously sold.

If you would like to view the different DDOs for the date:

WoW! Nice Example! Beautiful! Congrats. on the Top PoP too. Thanks for all the info. Very Nice Variety, in which, sadly, I do not have. LoL>
Although, the date, on your coin, 1939, looks as it is Machine Doubling, no? Even though I know it's not.

keyman64

@joeykoins said:

@keyman64 said:
Not the DDO FS-101 or any of the others known. Not FB. Obv Die Crack is very common on Mercs.

As far as the FS-101, I own the Top Pop that is tied with one other, a MS67FB example that I cherrypicked about 6-8 weeks ago. I have also previously cherrypicked two non-FB Top Pop MS67 examples that I previously sold.

If you would like to view the different DDOs for the date:

WoW! Nice Example! Beautiful! Congrats. on the Top PoP too. Thanks for all the info. Very Nice Variety, in which, sadly, I do not have. LoL>
Although, the date, on your coin, 1939, looks as it is Machine Doubling, no? Even though I know it's not.

The 1939 FS-101 is the most minor Merc DDO variety that has made it into the Cherrypickers' Guide and the corresponding PCGS Complete Variety Registry Set. There are many more varieties that are more significant that are not in the Cherrypickers' Guide or Registry Set and SHOULD BE. This is a true Doubled Die with splits in the serifs, although really minor. Unless you know what you are looking for and have the opportunity to cherrypick via True View out of a dealer's inventory online like I did in this case, it really requires a 20x loupe. The two MS67 examples that I cherrypicked several years back, I did so at shows using a 20x. There are Merc DDOs that can be cherrypicked using an 8-10x loupe and it's much easier.

All of that said, I was told by Whitman that the Cherrypickers' Guide Sixth Edition Volume II should be available by the end of August. It will be interesting to see what new items are added for the Merc Series, especially since I made my recommendations to them back in 2015.

joeykoins

Thanks again. Learning each and every day!
Still waiting (Anticipation), on my recent Mercury submission. 1920s FB. Hoping for a MS 64?

mothra454

@MFeld said:
Only the middle set of bands is relevant for the “FB” designation and in this case, the bands aren’t even close.

That's what I thought, but always good to hear it from an expert. I have one in an old holder that is graded as MS65FRB. Is that any different than "full bands"?

keyman64

@mothra454 said:

@MFeld said:
Only the middle set of bands is relevant for the “FB” designation and in this case, the bands aren’t even close.

That's what I thought, but always good to hear it from an expert. I have one in an old holder that is graded as MS65FRB. Is that any different than "full bands"?

What is the brand holder?
FB=Full Bands
FSB=Full Split Bands
FRB=Full Rounded Bands (I believe) The bands should have a full rounded look to them and not flat on the tops.

Different grading companies have different standards

mothra454

@keyman64 said:

@mothra454 said:

@MFeld said:
Only the middle set of bands is relevant for the “FB” designation and in this case, the bands aren’t even close.

That's what I thought, but always good to hear it from an expert. I have one in an old holder that is graded as MS65FRB. Is that any different than "full bands"?

What is the brand holder?
FB=Full Bands
FSB=Full Split Bands
FRB=Full Rounded Bands (I believe) The bands should have a full rounded look to them and not flat on the tops.

Different grading companies have different standards

It's an old Hallmark slab