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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I rarely provide links but for those that want dated info:

    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/coronavirus/card/u4qjZDrkGuuPLxl29J38

    Re the recent meeting: I'm just relying on third hand info from a friend that works for a PRIMARY DISTRIBUTOR. May be valid, might not.

    Why are premiums so high on ASE's if the mint were meeting demand?

    Have a nice day
  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The premiums right now at the major online dealers are insane and way over the top.
    You are buying about $7.50 in the hole per ounce of American eagle silver.
    There is a lot of hope that it continues to rise. I do have hope but not that type of gambling hope.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @streeter said:
    I rarely provide links but for those that want dated info:

    https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/coronavirus/card/u4qjZDrkGuuPLxl29J38

    Re the recent meeting: I'm just relying on third hand info from a friend that works for a PRIMARY DISTRIBUTOR. May be valid, might not.

    Why are premiums so high on ASE's if the mint were meeting demand?

    OK so back in March for one week the mint sold all they could produce due to a spike in demand. They have sold 3 million+ silver eagles since the article you referenced, I'd hardly translate that into a claim that the mint has run out of silver. I believe there was even a shutdown, move production to Philadelphia event earlier this year.

    Thanks for providing an article though and attempting to back your claim/conspiracy.

    There is no doubt based off premiums there is strong demand for silver eagles but I'd hardly call it a shortage. I am glad this round I have more than I ever planned and have no need/desire to purchase more. I would never pay current premiums for any amount or type of silver. Interesting times.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @streeter said:
    All you guys seemed to have missed that the USMINT is out of silver. They blamed C-19. Hogwash. They are out.

    Yup they were in March, but not now...suggest you research your comment before posting it.

    https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-news/2020/march/13/us-mint-sells-out-silver-eagles-demand-surges/#:~:text=The United States Mint has announced a shortage,as sales increased an incredible 300% in March.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 23, 2020 4:18PM

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    Tell APMEX (an authorized mint purchaser) that they're customers are paying "unicorn numbers" for their ASEs.

    Don't need your ASEs @ $30, bought boxes less than three weeks ago for $22.93. Besides if you sell at $30 now, good chance you'll regret it later. If I were gonna buy @ $30 (which I may very well do) I would rather buy from someone "reputable."

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  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 980 ✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    $605 a tube - sold 25 tubes today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2020-1-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Brilliant-Uncirculated/312894776778?_trkparms=5079:6000000123

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    Hey now, no reason to be grumpy during something that on average occurs only once or twice a generation! Metals are up! Peace and love to all and rejoice.

    Make hay while the sun shines my friends.
    Winter is coming..

    What our country is doing to destroy itself in the name of greed speaks for itself.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @taxmad said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    $605 a tube - sold 25 tubes today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2020-1-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Brilliant-Uncirculated/312894776778?_trkparms=5079:6000000123

    That's far from no fee. Ebay, paypal, packaging, free shipping maybe net $24-25 an ounce.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @taxmad said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    $605 a tube - sold 25 tubes today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2020-1-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Brilliant-Uncirculated/312894776778?_trkparms=5079:6000000123

    That's far from no fee. Ebay, paypal, packaging, free shipping maybe net $24-25 an ounce.

    The point is what buyers are paying, not what sellers are netting. It's becoming a feeding frenzy.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @taxmad said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    $605 a tube - sold 25 tubes today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2020-1-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Brilliant-Uncirculated/312894776778?_trkparms=5079:6000000123

    That's far from no fee. Ebay, paypal, packaging, free shipping maybe net $24-25 an ounce.

    The point is what buyers are paying, not what sellers are netting. It's becoming a feeding frenzy.

    Doesn't look like a feeding frenzy to me. I remember as recently as 2016 Apmex selling 100 rolls+ an hour 24/7 under the ebay daily deals. Pinehurst is selling 25 overpriced rolls a day. My offer still stands, better hurry and get some now!!!! lol

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™

  • taxmadtaxmad Posts: 980 ✭✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @taxmad said:

    @blitzdude said:

    @derryb said:
    When the mint has no ASEs to sell to the APs, the APs and their primary dealer customers will not have ASEs for sale. I suspect many of their "active" listings are for the next delivery they receive. AP's are now paying $25+ for what they get from the mint. A $5 premium is in line with earlier premiums from this year. Third party bullion dealers who buy from the AP are paying more than $25 to get their inventory.

    $30 for an ASE seems high but it is because of a rise in spot, not in premiums.

    You offer up no fee $30 an ASE right now I'll sell you all you could ever dream of affording and then some. Those are unicorn numbers.

    $605 a tube - sold 25 tubes today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-20-2020-1-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Brilliant-Uncirculated/312894776778?_trkparms=5079:6000000123

    That's far from no fee. Ebay, paypal, packaging, free shipping maybe net $24-25 an ounce.

    The point is what buyers are paying, not what sellers are netting. It's becoming a feeding frenzy.

    Doesn't look like a feeding frenzy to me. I remember as recently as 2016 Apmex selling 100 rolls+ an hour 24/7 under the ebay daily deals. Pinehurst is selling 25 overpriced rolls a day. My offer still stands, better hurry and get some now!!!! lol

    Those 2016 sales were 1.50 over spot, possibly eligible for eBay Bucks and Mr. Rebates, so after credit card cashback you were under spot

  • Tiggs2012Tiggs2012 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    Buying activity has been increasing since slv popped over 20 and am seeing reduced inventory at major dealers. Its not the craziness from 6 months ago but its clearly worse than a month ago. Today was a consolidation day for silver yet it still closed up, still not a bad time to add more.

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