Capped Bust Dime - NEWP

pursuitofliberty

I've been looking for a large-sized, Capped Bust Dime, and this hit my radar a couple of weeks ago. The picture was a little dark, but I had a pretty good feeling based on some other research I did as _ went back and forth on if, and how much I would bid.

I kind of have a thing for over-dates too, so that helped keep me looking and thinking about her. Although I like more pronounced strikes when possible, this is an issue that seems plagued by the soft features over the brow. Large E's on the reverse, and based on everything I could find on-line, I believe this would be the JR-3 marriage (but I do not have that reference yet). She has a nice blue-gray color and ample luster remaining. The reverse is rotated CW about 30deg (as shown) and I do not know (yet) if that is common for the marriage.

Although she only arrived this afternoon, I am very happy with her. I find her to be a pleasing piece that I think will compliment my early US collection well. She's off to the vault tomorrow so I wanted to get some pictures of her tonight, and since they came out pretty decent, I thought I'd share.

Any comments from the more advanced Bust Dime guys would be appreciated. And guess the grade if you wish. Definitely show yours if you have them.

NumisOxide

Wow great dime. Very pleasing example,
I'd say xf40.

CoinJunkie

Nice original look. I'll guess VF35.

ms70

Very interesting coin. I notice the letters in STATES are all different sizes.

pursuitofliberty

@ms70 said:
Very interesting coin. I notice the letters in STATES are all different sizes.

Isn't it interesting how there are so many variations compared to modern coinage? Over-dates and mismatched lettering, devices placed in different positions and ways. Rotated reverses, uneven planchets and striking. The list could go on.

Something we would probably proclaim as terrible quality control today, and yet was the work of skilled craftsmen, and even today, to many of us, miniature works of art.

Eddi

That is a very nice example of JR-3. Distinguishable from JR-1 and JR-2 in that the star at the forehead points to the juncture between the headband and cap.
I have an example of the same variety.

jesbroken

What is the difference in the 1823/2 10C JR-2 and JR-3? Just curious.
Jim

Eddi

@jesbroken said:
What is the difference in the 1823/2 10C JR-2 and JR-3? Just curious.
Jim

According to the Bust Dime Variety Identification Guide, JR-2 and JR-3 share the same reverse. The difference is in the obverse. In JR-2 star 7 points to the curl at the the forehead, while on JR-3 it points to the junction between headband and cap.

ricko

Very nice coin and excellent pictures - the details are very clear and show the mismatched letters very well. Also the evidence of the overdate. Cheers, RickO

Jimnight

Nice coin!

pursuitofliberty

Thanks for the comments

@Eddi
Nice example! Out of curiosity, is you reverse rotated as well?

I never found text that helped me identify pick-up points, but I found pictures of each, and based on my eye, I saw one other item that differentiated the two obverses. It certainly appeared to me that on the JR-3, the 2 in the date appeared lower (closer to the rim) in relation to the rest of the date. Maybe that is a notation from the 1822 host dies?

johnny9434

Vf 30/ 35

logger7

It's hard to find higher grade versions of this date/overdate. Have had a
lower grade.

NSP

I don’t have 1823/2 JR-3, but I do have JR-2. It shares the reverse with your JR-3.

Something interesting about this reverse is that the rightmost talon extends to the lowest arrow shaft. I believe that this is the only die marriage where this is the case (though I may be wrong; I encourage correction if I am in fact wrong).

jesbroken

@Eddi Thank you

Jim

Smudge

35-40. Nice and original.

MikeInFL

Nice coin. I really like it's old silver look.