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I'm thinking these are counterfeit.... what say you?

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Both 1909 s vdbs. No better pictures are available unfortionatly.


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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,301 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 29, 2020 5:41PM

    The first one is definitely a counterfeit. The second one appears to be real with an added mintmark. The coin is well worn yet the mintmark is quite sharp.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • coin4salecoin4sale Posts: 375 ✭✭✭

    BAD

    BT&C
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first one is a no doubt counterfeit. I'm not sure about the second one.

  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew that number one was a dead on counterfeit, but just wanted a second opinion. On the second on I didnt think the mintmark looked good.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :o

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your thinking is correct!

  • highwayman1highwayman1 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭

    1st - fake
    2nd - coin itself looks legit but looks added (discoloration around it, and the shadow is too high).
    hth

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,898 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that the first one just looks fake and the second one looks like the mintmark has been added.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Raw for a reason.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Raw for a reason.

    I generally agree but not every raw key date coin is a fake. The chances of getting a fake is higher on some venues such as eBay versus buying from a professional coin dealer. Caveat emptor.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake coin, added MM

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the above...first is fake, second has added MM....Cheers, RickO

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,923 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Smudge said:
    Raw for a reason.

    You seem to say that a lot. In some cases, that reason is that the coin is counterfeit or has problems.

    In many others, however, it’s merely because (for perfectly benign reasons) the coin hasn’t been submitted for grading. Coins in the latter category are submitted for grading in large quantities, just about every day.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,412 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bogus I'll pass on both

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    fake, & added MM

    Frank

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First one is fake and the second an added mintmark but a real good job.

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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with the consensus, fake, added mm. I guess it's easier to add the mm than to polish away the evidence...or does it just show better with age?

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  • SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Acetone should remove the S on the second coin if it was glued on.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fake
    Altered

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