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1916 doubled die buffalo nickel, would you restore the date on this one or leave it alone?

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,508 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 19, 2020 2:35PM

    That's a nice one. It has the aforementioned MD.

    Even without looking at the braids, if you look at the inside feather and the one on top of it, you'll see clear doubling on all of the genuine ones.

    Pete

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a pretty strong result. I guess it shows how high the demand is for this variety.

  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I never knew the markers were so obvious. Thanks for sharing. Leave that bad boy as is!

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    joey and I are in the minority on this one. I would smear some nic-a-date on the piece and let that dramatic doubling in the date see the light of day. I've gotten great results with nic-a-date restorer.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 20, 2020 11:42AM

    @mr1874 said:
    joey and I are in the minority on this one. I would smear some nic-a-date on the piece and let that dramatic doubling in the date see the light of day. I've gotten great results with nic-a-date restorer.

    And I might well do the same it were mine. And I would use nic-a-date too, But before applying the acid I would
    “box” the date area with little strips of masking tape! Then apply the nicadate onto the boxed area and rinse after a
    few seconds to bring up the date. If this is done right the boxed off date area looks real neat! Nothing as unattractive as a restored date buffalo where the restorer just slapped a large dropping of nic a date all over the bottom of the coin and
    thus created an unsightly mess. And even worse is when the acid is left on too long and not properly rinsed off.

    But I bet that someday this buffalo gets restored, though I realize there are a lot of people who do not approve of this
    for this specimen.

    Then again were it mine I might be torn and not do it!

    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing as unattractive as a restored date buffalo where the restorer just slapped a large dropping of nic a date all over the bottom of the coin and thus created an unsightly mess. And even worse is when the acid is left on too long and not properly rinsed off.

    I found that a little ball of nic-a-date will reside over the date area when applied directly from the bottle. In other words, the stuff doesn't flow into areas where you don't want it to be IF it is applied with care. My use of the word "smear" was not appropriate. A little practice and just the right amount of nic-a-date can be made to cover the date area only.

    The one thing about nic-a-date that I'm not crazy about is the discoloration that the chemical, ferric chloride, can leave. I have several acid date Buffaloes that do not have the discoloration though and really look quite nice. Bold acid date, all four digits showing after treatment, even though the coin has wear to the point of being very close to PO-01 grade. I treated several hundred no date Buffs awhile back. There were a few key dates discovered by treating these with nic-a-date. Sold those on ebay.

    I would provide some pictures of the nicest acid dates but unfortunately am not equipped to do imaging at this time. I have a 1917 acid date that has no date discoloration whatsoever, a very natural appearance. I'm thinking that preparing the dateless Buff prior to nic-a-date treatment with something might be the ticket to getting consistently good results ie. bold four digit date with no discoloration. More research is needed.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would rather have the entire coin acid treated than just the date. I don't do acid treated Buffs, tho.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,510 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    I would rather have the entire coin acid treated than just the date. I don't do acid treated Buffs, tho.

    Most acid treated nickels are ugly with a dark blotch stain over the date. Anyone ever try to just dilute some nic-a-date chemical with some water and then briefly soak the entire coin to bring out the date and to create a uniform darkening over the entire coin to simulate toning? I think that this would be more visually appealing.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    An acid date 16/16 in an ANACS slab didn't make the BIN of $685. Maybe people are coming to their senses on these as in the past they sold for over $1000.

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