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CaptHenway -- Rediscovered Elder Item
I brought this piece along to several major shows 10-20 years back to show to you but I can't recall if we got together and if you actually saw the piece. It's a DeLorey-19 struck over a Westphalia 1812C thaler KM-118 (or possibly KM-113?) with a resultant split planchet. I do not recall the full details but I believe that it was rescued from a junk silver pail in 1979-80 and I picked it up a few years later. I call it a rediscovered piece because I put it away about ten years ago and just found it again along with a small group of other Elder items while switching safe deposit boxes. Are you familiar with any other Elder dies used on silver coin?

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Wow. That's an awesome Thomas Lindsay Elder piece!
I love how Lincoln's profile is within the profile of the host coin and facing the same direction!
That is different....Never saw one of those... or is there only one?? Cheers, RickO
Totally unique looking piece.
I do not remember seeing this piece. Thanks for posting it.
Besides the other silver overstrikes of DeLorey-19, see 77a & b, and the Canadian die "restrikes" by Bashlow.
TD
Maybe I'm showing my ignorance, but what are Delorey #'s for? Where are they found? Book?
They are catalog numbers used in @CaptHenway 's publication "Thomas L. Elder: A Catalogue of His Tokens and Medals."
The following is from E-Sylum:
https://www.coinbooks.org/v22/esylum_v22n24a13.html
Here's a signed specimen that sold a while back:
https://www.icollector.com/DeLorey-Signed-Thomas-L-Elder-A-Catalogue-of-His-Tokens-and-Medals_i30112352
The tokens and medals of coin dealer Thomas L. Elder, which I catalogued in the June and July, 1980 issues of The Numismatist.
Thank you.
I haven't been able to find many tokens with this die.
Here's a set I found using the same obverse die which sold on Feb 14, 2019. This was from the Charles E. Sigety collection. He passed away on Aug 3, 2014. Anyone know who owns this now?
https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/68668219_1909-8-thomas-elder-lincoln-tokens-incl-gold