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PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

This came into my office today


Thanks in advance
Pat

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  • AlanLastufkaAlanLastufka Posts: 188 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 3:55PM

    Here is the PCGS Price Guide for that coin, depending on the grade, the value varies: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1871-s-25c/5480/65

    If it really is "Gem Superb Unc", then you're looking at $20,000+. But given PCGS has only graded 2 examples at MS 65, I would not trust the text on the holder, I would grade it yourself using the images provided at the link and then submit it to PCGS if you think it'll straight grade.

    Edited: wrong link originally, fixed now

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a beautiful coin. I agree with Mark.

  • VernoVerno Posts: 327 ✭✭✭

    Wow, nice coin Pat!

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow beautiful coin!

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  • Bigbuck1975Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is wild. Congratulations in advance if you were able to purchase Pat!!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2020 6:52PM

    Boy, that looks frosty and original. I would certainly grade it gem. Just as long as the dark spots are toning and not scratches or damage of any kind. That should definitely be sent in to our host.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow.... Helluva walk-in!

  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,022 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful!
    Get that baby TrueViewed when you send it in Pat.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If that coin is indeed gradable(Hard to tell from the pictures) it just goes to show there is still some incredible stuff out there in the wild!

    Looks sweet in the pictures!

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very nice looking coin.... definitely needs a trip to our hosts.... Must have an interesting backstory....hidden away for years probably in an old collection. Cheers, RickO

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you removed it from the holder? The rims would need to seen to assess a more accurate grade..

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,506 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that custom holder made for the coin by the previous owner - very cool, and yes,
    a fantastic find is this day and age.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,177 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You really need to post a close-up of the coin to get more informated opinions on the grade. These photos of the entire hodler or slab are of very limited use.

    As for the grade, these photss make it seem that the coin does have some dull spots in the toning. If they really are there, I doubt that it will made the MS-65 grade, but it's still probably a Choice Uncirculated (MS-64 or 63) that is well worth the grading fees.

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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow - love it when something like this comes out of left field!

    Can't wait to see TV's on this one.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,973 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2020 10:34AM

    Very cool. I wonder how often dealers who own shops have stuff like this come in?

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:
    Very cool. I wonder how often dealers who own shops have stuff like this come in?

    I don't know about other dealers, but for myself I only see this type coin once in 9 or 10 yers
    Others see them yearly.

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  • SSRSSR Posts: 235 ✭✭✭✭

    stunner - screams with originality and luster

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What the heck, no grade yet??? Slack'n.

    bob ;)

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  • CommencentsCommencents Posts: 349 ✭✭✭

    I have a feeling this beauty would straight grade choice to gem uncirculated because the original owner probably was an expert grader, hence the custom holder.

    Preserve the holder if possible!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So what did you do, Pat?

    Did you buy it raw or are you and the owner sending it in to be graded together?

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020 12:40PM

    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

    Thumbs up!

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was hoping an opinion on grade was given! I would love to see that coin in hand!

    @PTVETTER said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

    Thumbs up!

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020 12:59PM

    @amwldcoin said:
    I was hoping an opinion on grade was given! I would love to see that coin in hand!

    @PTVETTER said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

    Thumbs up!

    That's a $10K-20,000 coin!!

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerfan said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    I was hoping an opinion on grade was given! I would love to see that coin in hand!

    @PTVETTER said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

    Thumbs up!

    That's a $10K-20,000 coin!!

    WRONG
    that is a $20,000.00+ to $30,000.00 range coin

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PTVETTER said:

    @Walkerfan said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    I was hoping an opinion on grade was given! I would love to see that coin in hand!

    @PTVETTER said:

    @amwldcoin said:
    What did your expert say about it?

    @PTVETTER said:
    I had an expert look at the coin!
    I haven't paid the owner yet
    In time it will go to PCGS, but not by me!

    .

    Thumbs up!

    That's a $10K-20,000 coin!!

    WRONG
    that is a $20,000.00+ to $30,000.00 range coin

    All The better!! What are your plans for it??

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  • ThreeCentSilverFLThreeCentSilverFL Posts: 1,690 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very sweet coin in an awesome old custom holder. thanks for sharing!

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Late in the thread, but I'll help anyway.


    Looks really nice to me.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 Yes, that's what I suspected, so I too, blew the images up. Obviously, an original high-end piece. Still unclear on what the OP's plans for the coin are....

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would say from the comments he does not own the coin but I could be wrong.

    @Walkerfan said:
    @ChrisH821 Yes, that's what I suspected, so I too, blew the images up. Obviously, an original high-end piece. Still unclear on what the OP's plans for the coin are....

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting!!!

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  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    I just noticed the initials “G. B. E.” on the holder. That makes me think of a very fine dealer I knew in the 80’s, who is no longer with us - Gene B. Edwards. Gene often handled exceptional coins. That included Barber coinage (and I’m pretty sure) Seated coinage, as well. I’d be surprised if this coin wasn’t owned and/or sold by him, previously.

    That is correct!

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  • CommencentsCommencents Posts: 349 ✭✭✭

    Send it to @Insider2 for conservation! :)

  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thought I recalled having seen some coins auctioned in the early to mid 1980's being listed as having come from the Gene Edwards collection.

    Used my Krause annual Auction Prices Realized books and located a several sales of Unc 1871-S quarters in the 1980's. Among the few I checked is this one from Auction 85 in July 1985 which looks like a match. It shows as bringing $7,425.

    It was not noted as being from Gene Edwards. Don't know if he owned it earlier, later or got it at this sale. Also not sure if it ever appeared in any other auctions. The other sales I checked, all in the pre slab era, did not match this coin.

    Must have been held onto by the same owner for a long time since it has avoided the slab world for so long.
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    https://archive.org/details/auction85featuri1985stac/page/37/mode/2up
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  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 13,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 11, 2020 6:33PM

    ,> @WinLoseWin said:

    Thought I recalled having seen some coins auctioned in the early to mid 1980's being listed as having come from the Gene Edwards collection.

    Used my Krause annual Auction Prices Realized books and located a several sales of Unc 1871-S quarters in the 1980's. Among the few I checked is this one from Auction 85 in July 1985 which looks like a match. It shows as bringing $7,425.

    It was not noted as being from Gene Edwards. Don't know if he owned it earlier, later or got it at this sale. Also not sure if it ever appeared in any other auctions. The other sales I checked, all in the pre slab era, did not match this coin.

    Must have been held onto by the same owner for a long time since it has avoided the slab world for so long.
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    https://archive.org/details/auction85featuri1985stac/page/37/mode/2up
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    This thread appears to be an excellent retort to those who say there must a reason that such a coin hasn’t been graded. The reason can be be something as simple as that, for whatever reason, the owner didn’t get it graded. 😉
    And this is by no means, an isolated example.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe the above information is correct!

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So it isn’t from Big Al’s 200 year old safe. Wonderful coin.

  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭

    Nice coin!

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