no other specifics were given except the Ac type. I say yes, I could become airborne and fly away..
question was simple: could it take off?
it might hit the tail on the end of the runway. But a skilled Capt could ignore the instruments and do it.
remember when a 767 landed without as much as a cup of fuel left on a flight from YYZ to YEG, in Gimli Manitoba Canada. Fuel starvation.....every pilots secret nightmare.
Boing said: Impossible.... pilots proved it: possible ... they did it. and a movie was made called : FreeFall
I had the pleasure to meet the Capt a couple of years later on a flight.( invited to the cockpit for landing in FRA)
@YQQ said:
no other specifics were given except the Ac type. I say yes, I could become airborne and fly away..
question was simple: could it take off?
it might hit the tail on the end of the runway. But a skilled Capt could ignore the instruments and do it.
remember when a 767 landed without as much as a cup of fuel left on a flight from YYZ to YEG, in Gimli Manitoba Canada. Fuel starvation.....every pilots secret nightmare.
Boing said: Impossible.... pilots proved it: possible ... they did it. and a movie was made called : FreeFall
I had the pleasure to meet the Capt a couple of years later on a flight.( invited to the cockpit for landing in FRA)
Ah the "Gimli Glider" story, dates back to when they were converting fuel weight from avoirdupois to metric - thus the error in calculating how much fuel the plane received at it's embarkation point. They landed at an old CAF base where the runway was being used as a drag strip and someone on the ground noticed the plane coming in and quickly cleared the runway of cars, bikes and people so the plane could land.
Then there was the Air Transat plane that glided into the Azores airport coming from Canada. Just glad when I have flown Air Canada they seemed to have figured the fuel thing out for my trans-Canada and trans-Pacific flights.
Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
The B52 might have a difficult time, but it would be a piece of cake for the Boeing 747 or Airbus A380. Not a problem either for the C-5 or C-17 or as indicated earlier, Antanov.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
Saor Alba
you seem to be familiar with the issue of fuel starvation.
Bob Pearson, the Capt on the glider told me in his words:
H, if my FO Maurice had not flown out of Gimli with the Air Force and I would not be a very experienced Glider pilot, we would have had nearly no chance.
His scariest moment was not getting the plane down. It was when on the very only and very final approach, just before TD, the saw 2 young boys on bikes riding along the runway....
they came to a stop, nose down, about 300' before the end of the runway where a bunch of Prosches were parked and drivers having a BBQ. Bob assured me that his cockpit was professionally quiet, but for a few seconds "bluer than blue" when conversing with ATC on the RAT's reserve power.
and yes, Air Transat had a fuel issue caused by a $5 uncertified seal in a fuel pump I believe. and it was night when they approached for an E-landing at P-TER military airport. incidentally, this Capt was also an experienced Glider pilot!! to the original Poster; I am not trying to derail your OP. It just simply led into this story.
Back to a aircraft full of pennies...
If it got off the ground and then carpet bombed the countryside with the 14,000,000 pennies what would the damage be? Would it hurt if you got hit on the head by a penny falling from 15,000 feet?
@Hydrant said:
If it got off the ground and then carpet bombed the countryside with the 14,000,000 pennies what would the damage be? Would it hurt if you got hit on the head by a penny falling from 15,000 feet?
Damage would be insignificant except as time goes by the zinc would kill many mammals under 18 pounds. The digestion of a single penny can kill a baby. Of course dogs and other animals would be more at risk. The cost of clean-up would be pretty high.
We've got tens of billions of these toxic "coins" in this country and continue to produce them. Of course most end up in landfill where they don't pose much of a threat.
The SR-71 Blackbird put the beans on the table when I was a kid, but of course I have been through C-141, C-5's B-52s. The currently used B-52's are the H model - the last one left the factory in 1962! There are actually more B-52s flying than even a few years ago as some have been pulled from the boneyard in Arizona and rebuilt. Imagine being some freshly minted early 20's pilot and getting to fly a plane that your grandfather or possibly even great grandfather flew back almost 60 years ago.
In contrast the Tu-95 Bear bomber produced by the Soviet Union was designed in the 1950s but still cranking out of the Tupolev factory into the mid 1980s. The only models still flying are ca. 1980's manufacture.
Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
@YQQ said: Saor Alba
you seem to be familiar with the issue of fuel starvation.
Bob Pearson, the Capt on the glider told me in his words:
H, if my FO Maurice had not flown out of Gimli with the Air Force and I would not be a very experienced Glider pilot, we would have had nearly no chance.
His scariest moment was not getting the plane down. It was when on the very only and very final approach, just before TD, the saw 2 young boys on bikes riding along the runway....
they came to a stop, nose down, about 300' before the end of the runway where a bunch of Prosches were parked and drivers having a BBQ. Bob assured me that his cockpit was professionally quiet, but for a few seconds "bluer than blue" when conversing with ATC on the RAT's reserve power.
and yes, Air Transat had a fuel issue caused by a $5 uncertified seal in a fuel pump I believe. and it was night when they approached for an E-landing at P-TER military airport. incidentally, this Capt was also an experienced Glider pilot!! to the original Poster; I am not trying to derail your OP. It just simply led into this story.
Back to a aircraft full of pennies...
Yeah, Canadian television has produced some good documentaries on the subjects.
Next month visiting family that lives near the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum - we are paying homage to the Lanc and the Lysander that is finally restored - last time I saw it it was stripped down to the frame.
Tir nam beann, nan gleann, s'nan gaisgeach ~ Saorstat Albanaich a nis!
I had two guys come down from New York and pick up 460,000 wheats last year and they hauled them away in an escalade SUv, it was rubbing the ground, but they did it.
Years ago,I sold 130,000 to a guy that came to get them with a Ford Escort. Talk about rubbing the ground !
Humor is good. Some people just don't get it. It only takes one. The squeaky wheel gets the grease! I hope coinstartled gets to come back. He is funny. Lighten up. He made a mistake......let it go. Who among us hasn't screwed-up? To err is human. To forgive is divine.
@Hydrant said:
Humor is good. Some people just don't get it. It only takes one. The squeaky wheel gets the grease! I hope coinstartled gets to come back. He is funny. Lighten up. Somebody makes a mistake......let it go. Who among us hasn't screwed-up?
Ironic that if the poster in question had taken that into account, he'd still be here.
@Hydrant said:
Humor is good. Some people just don't get it. It only takes one. The squeaky wheel gets the grease! I hope coinstartled gets to come back. He is funny. Lighten up. Somebody makes a mistake......let it go. Who among us hasn't screwed-up?
Ironic that if the poster in question had taken that into account, he'd still be here.
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no other specifics were given except the Ac type.
I say yes, I could become airborne and fly away..
question was simple: could it take off?
it might hit the tail on the end of the runway. But a skilled Capt could ignore the instruments and do it.
remember when a 767 landed without as much as a cup of fuel left on a flight from YYZ to YEG, in Gimli Manitoba Canada. Fuel starvation.....every pilots secret nightmare.
Boing said: Impossible.... pilots proved it: possible ... they did it. and a movie was made called : FreeFall
I had the pleasure to meet the Capt a couple of years later on a flight.( invited to the cockpit for landing in FRA)
Ah the "Gimli Glider" story, dates back to when they were converting fuel weight from avoirdupois to metric - thus the error in calculating how much fuel the plane received at it's embarkation point. They landed at an old CAF base where the runway was being used as a drag strip and someone on the ground noticed the plane coming in and quickly cleared the runway of cars, bikes and people so the plane could land.
Then there was the Air Transat plane that glided into the Azores airport coming from Canada. Just glad when I have flown Air Canada they seemed to have figured the fuel thing out for my trans-Canada and trans-Pacific flights.
The B52 might have a difficult time, but it would be a piece of cake for the Boeing 747 or Airbus A380. Not a problem either for the C-5 or C-17 or as indicated earlier, Antanov.
Saor Alba
you seem to be familiar with the issue of fuel starvation.
Bob Pearson, the Capt on the glider told me in his words:
H, if my FO Maurice had not flown out of Gimli with the Air Force and I would not be a very experienced Glider pilot, we would have had nearly no chance.
His scariest moment was not getting the plane down. It was when on the very only and very final approach, just before TD, the saw 2 young boys on bikes riding along the runway....
they came to a stop, nose down, about 300' before the end of the runway where a bunch of Prosches were parked and drivers having a BBQ. Bob assured me that his cockpit was professionally quiet, but for a few seconds "bluer than blue" when conversing with ATC on the RAT's reserve power.
and yes, Air Transat had a fuel issue caused by a $5 uncertified seal in a fuel pump I believe. and it was night when they approached for an E-landing at P-TER military airport. incidentally, this Capt was also an experienced Glider pilot!!
to the original Poster; I am not trying to derail your OP. It just simply led into this story.
Back to a aircraft full of pennies...
Please continue. Your perspective is fascinating.
If it got off the ground and then carpet bombed the countryside with the 14,000,000 pennies what would the damage be? Would it hurt if you got hit on the head by a penny falling from 15,000 feet?
Damage would be insignificant except as time goes by the zinc would kill many mammals under 18 pounds. The digestion of a single penny can kill a baby. Of course dogs and other animals would be more at risk. The cost of clean-up would be pretty high.
We've got tens of billions of these toxic "coins" in this country and continue to produce them. Of course most end up in landfill where they don't pose much of a threat.
Damage would be significant if they were released at low altitude.
It would be a sight to behold and a good way to get rid of the things.
The SR-71 Blackbird put the beans on the table when I was a kid, but of course I have been through C-141, C-5's B-52s. The currently used B-52's are the H model - the last one left the factory in 1962! There are actually more B-52s flying than even a few years ago as some have been pulled from the boneyard in Arizona and rebuilt. Imagine being some freshly minted early 20's pilot and getting to fly a plane that your grandfather or possibly even great grandfather flew back almost 60 years ago.
In contrast the Tu-95 Bear bomber produced by the Soviet Union was designed in the 1950s but still cranking out of the Tupolev factory into the mid 1980s. The only models still flying are ca. 1980's manufacture.
Yeah, Canadian television has produced some good documentaries on the subjects.
Next month visiting family that lives near the Canadian Warplane Heritage museum - we are paying homage to the Lanc and the Lysander that is finally restored - last time I saw it it was stripped down to the frame.
Years ago,I sold 130,000 to a guy that came to get them with a Ford Escort. Talk about rubbing the ground !
Humor is good. Some people just don't get it. It only takes one. The squeaky wheel gets the grease! I hope coinstartled gets to come back. He is funny. Lighten up. He made a mistake......let it go. Who among us hasn't screwed-up? To err is human. To forgive is divine.
Ironic that if the poster in question had taken that into account, he'd still be here.
I understand what you say and I respect it.