Has there ever been a "Is This Coin Real?" on an ultra rarity that turned out to be genuine?

abcde12345

If so, I've missed it. Would love to read a success story or two. Seems like each time I've opened such a thread the coin ends up being either altered or more than likely a fake.

CuKevin

Does the 1913 nickel count?

yosclimber

Right.

1. 1913 Liberty Nickel, Walton specimen. PR-63, 3rd finest of 5 known.
   It had a provenance from 1921-1946, then was in the famous Bob Walton car wreck, where some of this coin supposedly ended up on the street. When he passed in 1962, it was bequeathed to Melva Givens. When she passed in 1992, it was bequeathed to her heirs. At some point along the way, the coin was showed to a dealer or two, who declared it a fake. So it was put away. Then in 2013 the family tried again, and this time the experts declared it genuine. It sold at auction in 4/2013 for $3.2 million.

2. 1854-S $5 . 3 were known, then a 4th was found in 2018. People at a coin show had told the owner it was a fake (because only 3 were known), but he kept trying. It sold for $2.2 million in 2018.
   https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/998024/find-of-a-lifetime-collector-finds-fourth-known-1854-s-5-and-authenticated-ats/p1

Walkerguy21D

Then in 2013 the family tried again, and this time the experts declared it genuine.

I recall there were quite a few experts involved, and I think they were able to gather together the other four known genuine coins, for comparison purposes. All five coins were back together again briefly.

jmlanzaf

@yosclimber said:
Right.

1. 1913 Liberty Nickel, Walton specimen. PR-63, 3rd finest of 5 known.
   It had a provenance from 1921-1946, then was in the famous Bob Walton car wreck, where some of this coin supposedly ended up on the street. When he passed in 1962, it was bequeathed to Melva Givens. When she passed in 1992, it was bequeathed to her heirs. At some point along the way, the coin was showed to a dealer or two, who declared it a fake. So it was put away. Then in 2013 the family tried again, and this time the experts declared it genuine. It sold at auction in 4/2013 for $3.2 million.

2. 1854-S $5 . 3 were known, then a 4th was found in 2018. People at a coin show had told the owner it was a fake (because only 3 were known), but he kept trying. It sold for $2.2 million in 2018.
   https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/998024/find-of-a-lifetime-collector-finds-fourth-known-1854-s-5-and-authenticated-ats/p1

I think the OP meant on this forum.

jmlanzaf

@CuKevin said:
Does the 1913 nickel count?

I think the point was a coin in a thread on this forum. So, unless the 1913 nickel first made its reappearance on this forum, I don't think it counts.

PerryHall

@Walkerguy21D said:
Then in 2013 the family tried again, and this time the experts declared it genuine.

I recall there were quite a few experts involved, and I think they were able to gather together the other four known genuine coins, for comparison purposes. All five coins were back together again briefly.

The experts compared the striations on the edges of the five coins and they all matched thus indicating they were all struck with the same collar at the same time.

Walkerguy21D

Good info - thanks PerryHall!

Walkerguy21D

@jmlanzaf said:

@CuKevin said:
Does the 1913 nickel count?

I think the point was a coin in a thread on this forum. So, unless the 1913 nickel first made its reappearance on this forum, I don't think it counts.

Well then, certainly not an ultra rarity, but some years back I sold a raw '93 Liberty Cap cent to a forum member, who posted it, and a number of members questioned it's authenticity.
I recall Mark Feld being 'in my camp', and I always offer full refunds anyway.
The buyer got it cert'd by our hosts as genuine, and was quite happy with the outcome.

ricko

I do not recall an 'ultra rarity' being authenticated on this forum....some general coins have been questioned and deemed authentic here, but not one such as the OP is stipulating. At least my aging memory does not recall one... Though, now that I think about it, the 1919 Mercury DDO might qualify as a rarity when first shown here... not ultra rare, but it was exciting for a while. Cheers, RickO......

Treashunt

@ricko said:
I do not recall an 'ultra rarity' being authenticated on this forum....some general coins have been questioned and deemed authentic here, but not one such as the OP is stipulating. At least my aging memory does not recall one... Though, now that I think about it, the 1919 Mercury DDO might qualify as a rarity when first shown here... not ultra rare, but it was exciting for a while. Cheers, RickO......

@Ricko beats me to it again.